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Disability benefit lawyer at Fightback4justice!

Fightback4justiceFightback4justice Posts: 3Member Connected
edited May 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi I'm a Disability Benefit Lawyer and set up and run Fightback4justice a non profit community interest group that offers free initial advice and professional advocacy in DLA, pip and ESA appeals and other disability related matters. We have a free adviceline and drop in sessions and cover the whole of the UK with this. We are unfunded by grants etc so if you instruct us to advocate in person then there are basic travel/admin costs as we are mostly run by professional volunteers. 

We attend the pip forum in London, liaise with tribunal daily and DWP and see changes as they occur. Find us on Facebook @fightback or ring 01716727444 for free phone advice. As an ex CAb benefit lawyer we know exactly the best way to apply or transfer over to PIP and have an excellent 89% success rate in court to date. 

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Posts: 5,250Community champion Disability Gamechanger
    Hello welcome  and thanks
    I am sure that many will be glad to hear of your services

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • steve51steve51 Posts: 5,874Community champion Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Fightback4justice

    Welcome to our online community /website.

    You will be greatly received by a large number of members on here in regards to (PIP)

    https://community.scope.org.uk/profile/Sam_Scope

    I have just picked this one up on new members.

    With the very large numbers off new members struggling with the (PIP System)

    Can we please let this service better known ???

  • Fightback4justiceFightback4justice Posts: 3Member Connected
    Apologies I have only just seen this, we are registered as advocacy for disabled people as a cic with companies house non profit. 
  • GizmoTiddlesGizmoTiddles Posts: 128Member Pioneering
    Hi
    Great to hear another service fighting our corner 
    Cheers 
    Gizmo
  • KafolegKafoleg Posts: 21Member Connected

    Hi @fightback4justice.

    Nice to hear there is a service help fighting 4 justice for disabled people. This is what we need.

    How can I get contact to a lawyer ? 

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Kafoleg said:

    Hi @fightback4justice.

    Nice to hear there is a service help fighting 4 justice for disabled people. This is what we need.

    How can I get contact to a lawyer ? 

    You have to join at a cost of £12 a month.
  • KafolegKafoleg Posts: 21Member Connected

    Thanks @Yadnad for your info & reply.

    Have a good day.

    @kafoleg

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    joining is a must they do superb work with high success rate so 12quid is nothing for the benifit

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2018
    Worth noting that the word lawyer implies a currently practising solicitor and infers a higher level of knowledge than perhaps someone working for example as a volunteer in Citizens Advice but, in the UK, the word is largely meaningless with all due respect to the OP. Easy enough to check the solicitors register to see if sometime is a practising solicitor. 

    One becomes aware from time to time of organisations who charge erroneously claiming free advice is no longer available in an area in order to secure business. HMCTS also alert when reps pass themselves off as being from other organisations (sadly it has happened). There’s more than enough case work to go round forever more but people on fixed incomes should at least be very clear whether high quality free advice is available in their area before choosing to pay. Obviously in some areas that may not be practical and there’s a meaningful gap which paid advice may be the only way to bridge.

    Finally most advice organisations make no claims about success rates as high success rates can imply that an organisation is cherry picking only the cases most likely to win. It impresses some people but is not the best or only measure of quality.

    You pays your money you takes your choice, so to speak.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    Worth noting that the word lawyer implies a currently practising solicitor and infers a higher level of knowledge than perhaps someone working for example as a volunteer in Citizens Advice but, in the UK, the word is largely meaningless with all due respect to the OP. Easy enough to check the solicitors register to see if sometime is a practising solicitor. 

    One becomes aware from time to time of organisations who charge erroneously claiming free advice is no longer available in an area in order to secure business. HMCTS also alert when reps pass themselves off as being from other organisations (sadly it has happened). There’s more than enough case work to go round forever more but people on fixed incomes should at least be very clear whether high quality free advice is available in their area before choosing to pay. Obviously in some areas that may not be practical and there’s a meaningful gap which paid advice may be the only way to bridge.

    Finally most advice organisations make no claims about success rates as high success rates can imply that an organisation is cherry picking only the cases most likely to win. It impresses some people but is not the best or only measure of quality.

    You pays your money you takes your choice, so to speak.
    i quoate them as i did look at their site and read the reviews from happy claim
    ants but i also googled the address and looked on google earth at the building  it was correct but i also agree there are plenty out there taking cash for advice or claiming exsperts

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sweet said:
    joining is a must they do superb work with high success rate so 12quid is nothing for the benifit

    £144 a year
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    Yadnad said:
    sweet said:
    joining is a must they do superb work with high success rate so 12quid is nothing for the benifit

    £144 a year
    it is up to each person if they want or need a years membership 12quid to acess what you need in download or info is cheap enough

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Depends what you need really. Variants of most stuff are available for free on the internet.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    edited August 2018
    Depends what you need really. Variants of most stuff are available for free on the internet.
    true but i found haveing it in one place or site rather far easier plus you can ring them and chat about how to sort out forms or just for advice ???i tried scope but could never get thru on phone hahaha and with cab and other welfare groups not doing so much it was worth the cash in the end 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sweet said:
    :


    it is up to each person if they want or need a years membership 12quid to acess what you need in download or info is cheap enough

    From what I have searched so far none are qualified solicitors with practicing certificates, the company does not appear under that trading name as being recognised by the Charity Commissioners and nor does it appear to have been registered with Companies House.

    Presumably they are working under that name for convenience purposes thus hiding their true identity.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    fightback has been around a long time i surgest you look properly and not lay claims none are qualified  after all  unless you wish to put your name to a post they have no comeback for legal purposes here is their facebook pageAbout 5,510,000 results (0.35 seconds) 

    Search Results

    Web results

    Fightback - Home | Facebook

    https://en-gb.facebook.com › ... › Community organisation
     Rating: 4.9 - ‎445 votes
    Fightback, Tottington, Bury, United Kingdom. ... Can not fault the service provided by Fightback, my husband has recently had a ... Fightback for justice in Bury.
    You've visited this page many times. Last visit: 10/04/18
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener

    Home • Welcome to the Fightback4Justice VIP Platform

    Welcome to the Fightback4Justice VIP Platform. We are a Non Profit Community Interest Group offering expert welfare benefit advice, help with advocacy ...
    Login · ‎About · ‎User Guide · ‎Our Partners
    You've visited this page many times. Last visit: 08/05/18
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    I’m not clear what it is those two posts are meant to be saying. Please explain.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    edited August 2018
    I’m not clear what it is those two posts are meant to be saying. Please explain.
    yadnad is stateing they are not reconised by charity are not qualifid sol are not reg company ???maybe not but founder is a lawyer and they have been around a few years and here again is a link to themhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/12/online-benefits-appeals-tribunals-disabled  Michelle Cardno,is the lawyer

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    edited August 2018
    yadnad i am curious now ??are you a benifits adviser or ex dwp employee or just a claiment

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    See my comments re: the word lawyer.
  • MarkmywordsMarkmywords Posts: 398Member Pioneering
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
  • sam12sam12 Posts: 1,347Member - under moderation Pioneering
    I paid 1 off fee 75 that.  Only getting mobility at moment til my mr is done was shocked today only 1 wk payment yet 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
    yes i agree  there is enough public info to accept fightback as is
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
    I’m not sure there’s any misinformation been posted. If there is then it should surely be reported? You’re right that certain questions weren’t asked so probably didn’t need an answer. I’m not bothered either way as I say because there’s more than enough advice work to go around (sadly) but are people saying that most people, seeing the word lawyer, would not lead people to assume practising solicitor and assume they’re the same thing?  
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
    I have now found them - their registered company name is not Fightback4justice.

    They are a registered charity and have submitted accounts and records to Companies House up to and including 2017.
    They claim to have lawyers working which is certainly not meaning qualified solicitors.
    They do make a profit which is then taken by the main shareholders as a salary effectively stripping the company of it's profit/reserves leaving only the second hand value of it's assets..

    I don't judge, I have reported the facts
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sweet said:

    yes i agree  there is enough public info to accept fightback as is
    Whatever. When having to send money off to access a service it is wise to thoroughly check out the credentials of the company requesting the money.

    If people wish to pay their money to an unknown company then that is their choice. To accept 'feedback' or 'statements of support' as meaning that all must be good, you only have to look to TripAdvisor with the bogus claims that have been made in the past.

    Sorry but my money would go to a qualified solicitor who specialises in benefit legislation. 

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:
    sweet said:

    yes i agree  there is enough public info to accept fightback as is
    Sorry but my money would go to a qualified solicitor who specialises in benefit legislation. 

    Of which there are actually very few.
  • MarkmywordsMarkmywords Posts: 398Member Pioneering
    Yadnad said:
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
    I have now found them - their registered company name is not Fightback4justice.

    They are a registered charity and have submitted accounts and records to Companies House up to and including 2017.
    They claim to have lawyers working which is certainly not meaning qualified solicitors.
    They do make a profit which is then taken by the main shareholders as a salary effectively stripping the company of it's profit/reserves leaving only the second hand value of it's assets..

    I don't judge, I have reported the facts

    The above is just more misinformation.

    I'm sorry but you clearly have no grasp of company law. I have actually been an MD.

    Your lack of understanding might make you say something actionable. I suggest that you cool it.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    Yadnad said:
    There is a lot of misinformation going on here.

    No claim is made that any of the staff have passed the bar exam.
    No claim is made that Fightback4justice is a charity.
    Adequate disclosure is made on their web site and they are a non-profit company limited by guarantee with the registered number  09486035.

    Sheesh, people are quick to judge.

    You take pot-luck with every advisor. There are no guarantees.
    I have now found them - their registered company name is not Fightback4justice.

    They are a registered charity and have submitted accounts and records to Companies House up to and including 2017.
    They claim to have lawyers working which is certainly not meaning qualified solicitors.
    They do make a profit which is then taken by the main shareholders as a salary effectively stripping the company of it's profit/reserves leaving only the second hand value of it's assets..

    I don't judge, I have reported the facts

    The above is just more misinformation.

    I'm sorry but you clearly have no grasp of company law. I have actually been an MD.

    Your lack of understanding might make you say something actionable. I suggest that you cool it.
    i have delt with fightback and am aware they are about but two you see on this post are trying to belittle anyone who may be better on advice than them tadnad is noone apart from benifit claimant who is trying to be clever  she has stated you do not excist unless under diff name have no qualified help are not reg with companys house and now claims she found you and you are ummmm legal actions for slande might make yadnad behave  but then we can all post under a made up name
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    yadnad you are aware you by posting are bringing scope into question by allowing your rant and false info to remain public

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Am I? I am only trying to make transparent the link given relating to fightback4justice
    I will cease any further comments on this matter but allow anybody that is interested in the company to decide for themselves

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09486035/filing-history

    also of interest 

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09486035/officers
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    edited August 2018
    yes they will learn that funds run the place and they do excelent job and give good advice and help ???pity you claimed they aint this or that befor you looked properly and were told you are over stepping the mark 

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger

    I do know my job and stated correctly that there was no trace of a company by the name of Fightback4justice. I also said that there may well be another name for it. The correct and registered name is ADVOCACY FOR DISABLED PEOPLE CIC.

    Fightback4justice is nothing more than a trading name.

    Once the correct name had been established I accessed the records at Companies House which I have given a link to.

    I never over step the mark, in fact I am quite diligent in searching out information that gives a better light on the matter. I have spent years working for the government accessing information from all manner of sources relating to directors and company worth.

    The accounts that are listed shows the worth of the company. Look further and you will find that it has paid employees. Look further still and it clearly does make a profit which appears to be then paid to the directors.

    I do not need to defend myself any further, the information is in plain sight in the links I have posted.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    ahhh well fightback had better alter everything just so you can be correct you seem to be an exspert on everything  but hy if i knew your real name i could find you very fast as i worked for certain gov establishmants till my illnes 

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Listener
    and now i am affected by mental blocks and thoughts  i am on benifits but am still connected in one way or other

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2018
    Some of you, very quick to criticise personalities on other threads, might want to read or re-read https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/46915/comment-on-the-content-not-the-contributor#latest as a quick reminder as it seems to be a behaviour you indulge in repeatedly. @yadnad has posted nothing incorrect nor any false information that I can see and I’m confident that were you asked to evidence the accusation you would not be able to do so. 

    I doubt that threatening a poster with what they can and can’t post is the role of another poster. That’s a role for administrators.

    The fact that one of you has had the outcome you desired should not be equated with good advice. Very few people on the receiving end of welfare rights advice have any objective clue as to whether they received good advice at all and I’ve seen many people use many services over the years who achieved outcomes they were very happy with where the service used means which were at best morally debatable. What I am saying has general applicability. You can say that your experience felt very good to you and got you your desired outcome but it’s not possible to say from that the advice was objectively accurate and that they are therefore excellent. They were excellent for you. No more. No less. 

    A good example of this is the horror show where some advice services or rogue advisers tell people to put down what they’re like on their worst day. This allows decision makers to conclude erroneously that they’re like that all the time and an award gets made. The claimant gets their desired outcome so all is rosy and they think the advice was great because of that. The claimant has skirted very close to fraud and may have actually done so. The agency aided that. There have been two prosecutions on that basis and I know at least one of them was successful. 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sweet said:
    ahhh well fightback had better alter everything just so you can be correct you seem to be an exspert on everything  but hy if i knew your real name i could find you very fast as i worked for certain gov establishmants till my illnes 

    So you say
    I make no further comments
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sweet said:
    am still connected in one way or other


    I would hope so
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2018
    Ah, should have refreshed before I posted the above post. My bad, @sweet it appears cannot evidence what they assert and is content to mud sling. I have reported (I think) 4 posts and 2 posters I think as a pattern has rapidly emerged. 
  • sam12sam12 Posts: 1,347Member - under moderation Pioneering
    They are known I was given name by Lancashire Lancashire well being lady  she used the service .u seem to b off putting people on here. They're not fake there geniune well I find them brilliant  they doin all the work. They pushin up my mobility now dwp  rang reconside I got today payment 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    sam12 said:
    They are known I was given name by Lancashire Lancashire well being lady  she used the service .u seem to b off putting people on here. They're not fake there geniune well I find them brilliant  they doin all the work. They pushin up my mobility now dwp  rang reconside I got today payment 
    All I was doing was to clarify who they are exactly and what they are offering.
    I know where they are in Tottington as I lived in that area of Lancashire.

    If you are happy with their services that's fine. I was a little perturbed with some of their self styled descriptions of their company.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,492Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    You do? Getting dangerously close to me :)
  • AlexAlex Posts: 1,325Scope Team Scope community team
    I've now closed this discussion. 

    I would encourage you to read Pippa's recent post.

    We strive for the community to be a supportive and friendly place for everybody. Calling out or specifically targeting others, either on an individual or a repeated basis, can be upsetting and create a hostile atmosphere for other community users. We recognise that doing so often comes from a well-meaning place, the desire to help others and provide the best advice, however we kindly ask you to be mindful of others and respect each other's suggestions when posting your own guidance. 

    Disagreeing with someone is fine, but please do so with respect. Sometimes you may need to agree to disagree. Have a good evening.
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