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First put on work program

cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
Hi can I ask . Why I could have moved borough s and faced being put on a fit for work programme  never having been assessed  in fact was told by my adviser every visit to turn and go home  you are just one of many that slipped through the net .yet never made any report or questioned it .. now cam I find out if and when I was assessed maybe my memory fails me ..who knows . But I had moved to kinston  a women's aid place of safety  every bit.of a nightmare situation  was born .. Thanks 
Only me .. cathie..

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  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    Oh forgotten  to mention  I had home help meals on wheels excellent   circle of help and surport in place when I left my borough  less than two weeks later  my benifits  were put in a place I'd never been stops  constant  calls from the helpers in refuge explained  my need for help pain and mobility  8
    Only me .. cathie..
  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    To  no avail  constantly stopping my only way to survive  and my teenagers  if it was nt for the lovely ladies I shared this safe house with  we would have starved .true fact eight weeks they fed  us for so  embarrassed  but had he'll since this 2009 date . Thank you if you can advise   if not thank you for taking time to  read this..
    Only me .. cathie..
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Pioneering
    edited October 2017
    Hey @cathie

    Sorry to hear you're going through a tough time at the moment.  It sounds like you might be facing two sets of issues - one around benefits and one around the social care & support you need.  

    If you'd like, we can arrange for our information specialists in those areas to have a chat with you about what's been happening, and provide some advice?

    If you'd like to explore this, rather than disclosing potentially sensitive information on this public forum, you could perhaps email the helpline team, mentioning your online community post, and we'll arrange a time to chat further.

    [email protected] (or just call us free of charge on 0808 800 3333)

    Take care,

    -R
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  • BenefitsTrainingCoBenefitsTrainingCo Posts: 2,687Member Pioneering

    Hi @Cathie

    I'm not 100% sure what benefit we're talking about here - I'm presuming it's ESA, but if it's Universal Credit then please let us know!

    I'm assuming that you have been assessed in the past, and placed in the Work Related Activity Group, but as you say, the individual work programme you were previously on dealt with you by letting you go home each time? Whereas the new one does not? (please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick).

    If my assumption above is correct, then unfortunately as long as you are in the WRAG then it is at the discretion of the Work Program whether to excuse you. There are two options - firstly you could try challenging the decision to place you on the Work Program, as this is not suitable work related activity for you in your circumstances - the DWP are supposed to consider what work related activity is suitable not just send everyone on work programs - however this is quite a difficult challenge to make. Perhaps more straightforward is option 2, which is to request a reassessment to the Support Group. This would be done by calling ESA on the number on your letters from them, and asking them to move you, or writing a letter asking this (attaching any relevant evidence you may have).

    If the decision to place you in the WRAG was in the last year, you could also try following the appeals process, starting with a Mandatory Reconsideration. If you are not sure of the decision date, call the DWP, they should be able to tell you. All you need is the date.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/employment-and-support-allowance/while-youre-getting-esa/challenging-an-esa-decision/

    Hope this helps! Let us know if you need anything more.

    Kind regards,

    Mary

    The Benefits Training Co:
    Paul Bradley
    Michael Chambers
    Will Hadwen
    Sarah Hayle
    Maria Solomon
    David Stickland
  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    Thank you Mary much appreciated  .. I had someone come the other day because I had two falls one [email protected] have records of the other a friend took bloody pics so on the day really wasn't well .I also have nerve damage never changed  my story Al of a sudden pip which I didn't attend claim I'm claiming bedridden  and house bound no mobility  issues yes I have no clue what's going on the man was so rude anything told that day between my friend and myself was vlbased on my falls  told them this to contact  hospital my g.p has wrote me a letter saying mobility pain and discomfort .. pain clinic awaiting to see my surgon  as damaged long stem knee replacement and all the man could do was shout ur not bed ridden I never claimed to be think I need legal advise because this is getting worse .... even got a letter asking why 8 haven't contacted pip ..I clearly have spoke to this very rude man ..dave....never known anything like this    
    Only me .. cathie..
  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    I'm not sure I was ever assessed  I just found my self after moving borough s that problems started I never payed any mind  after a period of time I was being seen by the wrong office.  For two years . I have been  to he'll and back with these people I was given 5 thousand pounds pay back once after they stopped my money for two years getting 25 pound fortnightly for me and teenager to ill to deal with it finally got help on my side who sorted things out  my memory and confusion doesn't go in my favour takes me a whiLe.  To put order into any remembered  ordeal ie dates who why what when on the spot  is a definite no no .
    Only me .. cathie..
  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    You kinda got it right but this guy had me in office for weeks  then finally said you should not be here you clearly another one upped through the net never put that in 2 fitting mind .but said they should not be sending you to me you can't work nothing I can do for you I'm appointed to help people back to work ..even at that point was unaware I'd been at the wrong office since I'd moved appointed me the wrong office not sure why no one noticed for two years .. bloody shocking ..
    Only me .. cathie..
  • BenefitsTrainingCoBenefitsTrainingCo Posts: 2,687Member Pioneering
    cathiecathie,

    If you can get advice locally, I think this would be a good idea. Some people never have an assessment for ESA, they get assessed based on the forms you submit, although it's unusual for this to happen with someone in the work-related activity group.

    Anyway it sounds as if they now accept that you shouldn't be doing the work programme. It might be worth checking though whether you are already in the support group for ESA, and if not, as Mary advises, asking to go into the support group now, giving any evidence you have about your condition(s).

    You could also complain about what happened as it does sound as if something went wrong and, even if you are someone who can do some work-related activity, this particularly activity wasn't suitable for you. 

    It sounds as if you also have a PIP issue here, and I'm not sure exactly what has happened with that benefit. But from what you say, you could consider a complaint about how the assessor or DWP (not sure which) have behaved.

    There might be a specialist disability advice service where you are living now, and I'd recommend finding out because they might be able to help you to get everything sorted?

    Will
    The Benefits Training Co:
    Paul Bradley
    Michael Chambers
    Will Hadwen
    Sarah Hayle
    Maria Solomon
    David Stickland
  • cathiecathie Posts: 143Member Courageous
    Thanks will I belive now I have assessment and results from brought I moved from in writing I may not only take legal advise but get to the bottom of this iv been treated disgracefully and today has proved the legal team can kick **** and force these idiots into something I couldn't been trying to get this sorted for two years one call from legal and emails are flying out of my lap top  council tax and rent put me through he'll for no goid reason other than not doing jib correctly  so I may well take advise and pass this to people in the know I'm so tired it may be what's needed .. and just to say because I can take five steps to brothers auto car only need right side left side doesn't work  then they see fit to say I can work  wow amazing  when been five mins up road takes ten mins to remove my self in stiffen and be able to take few steps from drive to front door how an employer could do with a worker like me   like a hole in the head lol thx will..
    Only me .. cathie..
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