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Experiences of young blind and partially sighted people in UK vs France

Christophe70Christophe70 Posts: 3Member Listener
Hello, my name is Christophe. I'm living in France. I'm working as a psychologist in a secondary school. There are some blind and partially sighted young people in this school. I'm helping them about their guidance project. As well, I am studying at University about impairment and disability. One of my interest it is blind and partially sighted young people in UK, to compare with young people in the same situation in France. If someone accept to talk about his/her experience or her/his child's experience in school, I will be very interested and happy. The question that I ask myself are : is it possible to have and individual support in each school or people must go in certain school ? Who decide to go in a school rather than another one ? Has the family got the power to decide ? I would be so glad to listen to someone through what he or she find difficul and also pleasant beeing with others in the same school.
If you have some questions about France you can ask, you welcome.
And sorry for my imperfect english
Reading you soon I hope
Christophe

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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,366Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Christophe70

    Your English is considerably better than some on here :)

    Over here we use sight-impaired and severely sight-impaired as it was realised that most people who were registered as blind actually have some vision  :)

    To answer your specific initial questions:

    1) Children with sight impairments can go to mainstream education or special schools. There is an element of choice. 

    2) Individual support is possible in both types of school but harder to get and keep in a mainstream school. 

    3) In theory the family can decide the school but there's still an allocation process and some people do not get their school of choice. The level of individual support is decided by an assessment process and this can, but often doesn't, include an Education, Health and Care Plan which lays out what is needed and from whom. Unfortunately schools are quite resistant to EHCPs so it often comes down to the extent to which the family will fight for their child's needs. 

    My experience of education as a sight-impaired person was a long time ago and things have definitely changed but my professional experience brings me into contact with children with sight impairments in education and things are not necessarily any better. 


  • JennysDadJennysDad Posts: 2,308Member Pioneering
    Hi @Christophe70 and a warm welcome to the community. If my French was as good as your English I would be very very proud of myself :smile:
    Best wishes
    Richard
  • Christophe70Christophe70 Posts: 3Member Listener
    Hi thanks for answers and compliments about my english level.

    So,  mikehughescq if I well understand you , young sight-impaired should have an EHC Plan for theirs needs and aspirations, but it is rarelly attempted. We have the same plan in France called Individual Support Plan but for sight-impaired the quality of these plans executions depends on which schools they are made.
     If you agree, I explain how it is in France and where I work. may be you could tell me what is the same and what is different ?

    In National Education there are mainstream schools and some rare of them have
    an official support device (Inclusion) , so they have money for specialist teacher and provisions (PC, software, ...).
    I work in that kind of school. There are 5 young people who are supported. They go in the same class than the other with their PC and sofware, and lessons are given in appropriate policy characters (Arial 14 for example). In addition they rewiew courses with specialist teacher.
    As well mostly of them live far from the school (one hour). They come in taxis (provisons and taxis are paided by the administrative department).So I find it hard for them concerning their time schudle. They do more than others.

    Do you have that kind of device in England ?
    Do you some specialist teachers ?
    Who paided for helpings (provisions, transport, ... ?)

    Thanks for your answers

    Best wishes




  • ColourfullColourfull Posts: 59Member Courageous
    Hi to you,

    I am a Partially Sighted 55 yr old who Should have gone to A Specail School but was Shoved in a normal school for normal sight seers which I am very disappointed about because failed at School but have excelled at self learned on Computers with lots of certificates just need to do level 3 in Computers  would like a part time job.

    Colourfull.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 3,366Member - under moderation Disability Gamechanger
    Hi thanks for answers and compliments about my english level.

    So,  mikehughescq if I well understand you , young sight-impaired should have an EHC Plan for theirs needs and aspirations, but it is rarelly attempted. We have the same plan in France called Individual Support Plan but for sight-impaired the quality of these plans executions depends on which schools they are made.
     If you agree, I explain how it is in France and where I work. may be you could tell me what is the same and what is different ?

    In National Education there are mainstream schools and some rare of them have
    an official support device (Inclusion) , so they have money for specialist teacher and provisions (PC, software, ...).
    I work in that kind of school. There are 5 young people who are supported. They go in the same class than the other with their PC and sofware, and lessons are given in appropriate policy characters (Arial 14 for example). In addition they rewiew courses with specialist teacher.
    As well mostly of them live far from the school (one hour). They come in taxis (provisons and taxis are paided by the administrative department).So I find it hard for them concerning their time schudle. They do more than others.

    Do you have that kind of device in England ?
    Do you some specialist teachers ?
    Who paided for helpings (provisions, transport, ... ?)

    Thanks for your answers

    Best wishes




    @Christophe70 yes you’ve understood correctly. EHCPs are not just for the sight-impaired though. Anyone with special needs. 

    What we have here is the Equality Act 2010 which ought to allow pupils to have ‘reasonable adjustments’ which could be anything but, again, most people don’t even know they have the right. 

    We also have QTVIs - qualified teachers of the visually impaired. 

    You can probably get more detailed answers on all of this at the NatSIP web site. https://www.natsip.org.uk/
  • Christophe70Christophe70 Posts: 3Member Listener
    Hi. Thanks for answers.
    And Mikehughescq thanks also for the websites





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