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Zero points for PIP

SystemSystem Posts: 283 Scope community team
edited April 16 in PIP, DLA and AA
This discussion was created from comments split from: pip medical assessor lied feel so ashamed now.

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  • sammyf114sammyf114 Posts: 1Member Listener
    I just had my pip claim come back with 0 points all because the so called professional medical assessor lied through the skin of his teeth about everything. I'm in a mobility scooter when I'm out and I use a walking stick every other time. I suffer from degenerative bone disease in the spine as well as my legs plus I suffer from severe PTSD from military service of which in itself carries 22 different mental health issues alone. I can't walk, can't eat, can't take my own medication, can't work any more,  can't wash myself, I can't socialise, can't be in crowded areas, I receive treatment for my pain and mental health yet apparently I'm talking rubbish and so is the real professional's that deal with me every month along with thousands of other sufferers. It's a disgrace and not the very bit least funny in anyway. Everything the so called medical assessor put in his report was nothing but a complete and utter lie about everything he said. He made me out to be chatty, jumping about the house, apparently stuffing my face, dancing, my memory was spot on even though I suffer from severe long term and short term memory loss too. Absoloutebe scum!
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Posts: 4,141Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Hi sammy and welcome


    Unfortunately we see similar stories on the forums far too often

    If you can you should get help from CAB or any charity that supports your condition

    If you haven't done so you should ask for a copy of the assessment report asap. You will need this to identify the areas that you need to challenge

    For now you need to concetrate on showing that you meet the descriptors for an award.

    Although it is important to address any issues with the assessment report or HCP, this should be done as a separate complaint to the assesment provider. It can be beneficial to mention that you are making a formal complaint

    Most HCP' and DM's don't take into account the reliability factors and make their decisions on a snap shot of your life, how you were at the time.

    To complete any of the descriptors you need to do so Safely, Repeatedly, In a timely manner and to an acceptable standard.

    For example : If you can walk 20 - 50 metres but you can't repeat it straight away and you need to rest for some time before you can do so again then you cannot be said to complete that descriptor. Or if it takes you twice as long as an able bodied person you cannot complete the descriptor
    Dressing and undressing : If your medication takes some hours to work in the morning and you cannot dress without assisstance because of this then this needs to be taken into account

    Go through each descriptor one at a time and see how these factors may apply
    You should look at each activity and break it down into sections and apply the reliability factors to each section

    For example Preparing food

    Can you do so ?  ( safely, realiably, to an acceptable standard and in a timely manner )
    If not, why not ?
    What is it about your condition that stops you doing so ?
    Can you do so if you have help or and aid ?
    What happens if you don't have help or an aid 

    Do this for each descriptor for your MR

    There is a template that you can used for the MR

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/683380/if-you-disagree-with-a-decision-made-by-dwp.PDF

    and some additional information

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/683381/how-to-disagree-with-a-decision-made-by-dwp.PDF

    You have a month from the date on your decision letter to request an MR. You can do this by letter or phone. Be very aware of this date, do not miss the deadline. If you are waiting for further evidence, then you can ask that the decision is not made until you have submitted this. They may or may not do so.

    If you haven't asked for the report until now, it is unlikely to arrive before this date so make it clear that you will be sending further evidence and that they should wait before carrying out the MR until it is received.

    If you can get further relevant evidence you  should submit this but it is not essential. Often, it is not your evidence that is the problem but the way it is read ( or not )

    MR's can often take 8 weeks or more but may also be done very quickly and before your new evidence is received. If this happens you can ask for the decision to be looked at again taking into account your new evidence.

    MR's have a low rate of success at present but this stage has to be completed in order to advance to the appeal tribunal.

    There is lots of good info on this site about appeals so please have a look around

    CR

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • debsidoodebsidoo Posts: 223Member Chatterbox
    Hi Sammy
    Its just a thought but are there any veterans associations that are able to help with your paperwork seeing as you were in the military.It May be worth checking out online if you could get specific advice from them.
         Debsidoo.x
  • lillybellelillybelle Posts: 455Member Chatterbox
    It’s totally disgusting.
    i feel for you, I really do.
    give yourself a few days to calm down and to start thinking clearly.
    ranting & raving on a MR will not get you points
    dont say in your MR that the assessor was a liar either as that won’t get you anywhere 
      Think about yourself and what and why you need help.
    im awaiting an MR decision that I sent in a week ago.
    im not expecting any change but this stage has to be completed before the next.
    Dont get disheartened.
    and for goodness sake DO NOT give up.
    i see it as a personal challenge against the government.
    good luck at keep posting 
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Posts: 2,331Member Brian Blessed
    Good luck


    I am a fibrowarrior!
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