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My husband's PIP assessment concerns

Kaz1957Kaz1957 Member Posts: 22 Courageous
edited July 2018 in Mental health issues
My husband has his pip tribunal on Thursday the 2nd of August and is so worried he has depression anxiety and osteoporosis in both knees but is so worried that he will not get anything he has a letter from his doctor and a letter from his consultant from the hospital anything he can do on the day any help would be appreciated 

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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member - under moderation Posts: 4,900 Disability Gamechanger
    Here’s something I’ve posted before to start you off.

    1)Concentrate wholly on what you were like on the date of claim.

    2) There are no “trick” questions. Tribunals are usually listed 20 minutes apart so, apart from the appeal papers, they need questions which cut across lots of functions. So the car question is brilliant because it indicates grip; mobility; dexterity; the ability to do something repeatedly; concentration and stamina. Instead of thinking negatively about such stuff think about what they’re getting at and your answers will be much better and more detailed. Similar questions include whether you’ve been on holiday recently. It feeds into mobility (getting across an airport); stamina; the ability to cope alone; the need for aids and appliances.

    3) There are no set rules or order for a hearing beyind the requirement that it must be seen to be fair. 

    4) Watch the judge’s pen. All three members may take notes but only the judge writes a record of proceedings. If you don’t want them to miss anything then remember that they can’t write as fast as you can speak, so watch their pen and slow down. Don’t worry about going too slow. They will tell you if you do.

    5) Never interrupt any tribunal member. It is perfectly okay to challenge them provided it’s not rude or aggressive. However, think about whether what you’re challenging them on is directly related to points. If it’s not then better to focus on points. This is especially important because loads of people second guess the demeanour of tribunal members as determining whether they are pro or against and it’s largely nonsense. An aggressive, challenging member may well just be a poor communicator and wholly on your side right up to the point you challenge them etc.

    6) Get yourself a representative and travel to the venue by whatever means makes you feel comfortable. It’s only ever an issue if you don’t explain what you did in full and if doing so contradicts your other evidence in some way for daily living and /or mobility.

    7) Same goes for clothes. You need to wear whatever makes you feel comfortable and relaxed. If you’re not relaxed then the likelihood of you presenting well are much reduced. Dressing down is not a good idea unless that all you can afford. A person who feels naked without make-up or a suit abd tie will similarly be over stressed if they try to pretend they’re in their comfort zone dressing down. 

    8) Other people’s tribunal experience can be valuable but it’s just that. Their experience. If they lost then it’s the tribunal to blame. If they win they everything they did is why they won and what you must do. The truth is usually very much in between.

    9) Know your case. What points are you going for and why. What’s your evidence? “The HCP was a liar” is neither evidence nor a winning strategy. Also, know the appeal papers. What’s where. 

    10) Do not be tempted to claim you’ve worsened since the date of claim. That’s a recipe for a failed appeal and an invitation to make another claim. Even if you have got worse always concentrate on your date of claim and what you were like then.

    Read more at https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/42864/tribunal-hearing#MLvH07Q1jGWdLUPE.99

  • April2018momApril2018mom Member - under moderation Posts: 2,882 Member - under moderation
    Make sure you can answer the questions properly. Listen to any question carefully to ensure you understand what you need to say in response. Give them as much information as you can possibly. Lay out your case clearly and confidently. Consider what points apply to your husband. Have lots of evidence available just in case they ask for it. Try to relax on the day of your appeal. Be sure to have a good nights rest the night before. Prepare a winning strategy and use it.

    Good luck!! 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member - under moderation Posts: 4,900 Disability Gamechanger
    Any evidence you have available should always be sent in advance to be added to the bundle. One of the very worst things you can do is just roll up on the day with a pile of stuff you’ve had all along. This is already being discussed on another thread. 
  • Kaz1957Kaz1957 Member Posts: 22 Courageous
    Yes thank you I have sent the information to the tribunal xxx thank you for your help x
  • BenefitsTrainingCoBenefitsTrainingCo Member Posts: 2,692 Pioneering
    Kaz1957,

    I don't have much to add to Mike's excellent & comprehensive advice, but as he says, do concentrate on the points. You can check what points your husband feels he should get by using the PIP self-test.

    Secondly just to say that he has two pieces of evidence, and as Mike says to get those to the tribunal in advance. 

    Good luck and remember, the tribunal are there to apply the law by getting the facts as clear as possible, that is their job - so all Mike's points are really valid. Answer the questions with the points in mind. If you raise anything additional, that should relate to points too. 

    Other good resources include this from Advice Now. The process isn't particularly formal but it is directed by the judge and the actual order of questions can vary as a result. However, I'd expect each of the panel members to ask questions - and remember, as Mike says, all of the questions have a point to them. Let us know how you get on.

    Will
    The Benefits Training Co:
    Paul Bradley
    Michael Chambers
    Will Hadwen
    Sarah Hayle
    Maria Solomon
    David Stickland
  • Kaz1957Kaz1957 Member Posts: 22 Courageous
    Yes thank you I will let you know xxx 
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