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pip tribunal wait time ???

misstraceymisstracey Posts: 31Member Talkative
hiya everyone does anyone know how long the pip tribunal  takes ive been waiting  9 months at the minute and have not heard any news yet when it could be thanxs

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Some are waiting a year and more. Give them a ring and ask them how much longer do they think it's going to be, they'll tell you approximately.
  • misstraceymisstracey Posts: 31Member Talkative
    thankyou poppy123456 seems  a never ending wait
  • affii1993affii1993 Posts: 52Member Whisperer
    Waiting since May 2018
  • Mikey44Mikey44 Posts: 74Member Talkative
    Call the Tribunal service ask them how long is the wait in your area as different areas vary😡😡 my wait is 14 months,it took them 30 minutes to stop my PIP and 14 months to wait to talk to them about it at Tribunal 
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    hiya everyone does anyone know how long the pip tribunal  takes ive been waiting  9 months at the minute and have not heard any news yet when it could be thanxs
    Hi, I’m in Middlesbrough and the current waiting time for a tribunal date is 39 weeks, purely due to the enormous number of people appealing against the dwp. Had my pip stopped in may, I’ve been waiting since. It just causes unessesary worry and stress, leading to more health problems. It truly is a satanic procedure. Why else would the government want millions of disabled people to go through this suffering? I hope everyone wins their appeal, we shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to prove our disability! Soz for the rant 😂
  • LorryLorry Posts: 21Member Whisperer
    I waited a year to go to tribunal (Devon), I won and they have just sent me my letter confirming it. Good luck 
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    Hi,

    We lodged my wife's appeal at Chester in early January.

    In April we rang and were told it would be another 19 weeks, taking us to the end of August.  

    We had heard nothing by the end of September and rang again on 3rd October, to be told we had waited 38 weeks and the current average is 33 weeks!   After a long pause the operator said we were 5 weeks over and she could chase it up.   Plan to ring again next week to find the result.

    We'll keep you informed....
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Hi,

    The waiting times are just a guide. Lots of areas have backlogs for Tribunals and a lot of people are waiting as long as 1 year, sometimes longer. Is your wife appearing in person? This will give her the best chance of a decision in her favour. Good luck.
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    Hi,

    The waiting times are just a guide. Lots of areas have backlogs for Tribunals and a lot of people are waiting as long as 1 year, sometimes longer. Is your wife appearing in person? This will give her the best chance of a decision in her favour. Good luck.
    Yes, I have seen people waiting 1 year+.   Still seems odd that we are so far over the average for our area.   Not that one expects anything to be easy with PIP!

    Yes, my wife will be appearing in person.   I had read on this forum that it's the best thing to do.   I must say although we have only just started posting, the Scope forum has been one of the most useful sources of info.  Thanks everybody!
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Posts: 2,324Member Brian Blessed
    Good luck 


    I am a fibrowarrior!
  • Kevin1960Kevin1960 Posts: 1Member Listener
    Good luck with your tribunral 
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    For info.
    Further to my post of 9 Oct., we rang HMCTS again and they said they posted a letter yesterday giving us a date at Chester in mid-November.   That will take the total wait to 44 weeks.
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
    I’ve been Given my date for December - this is over a year since I appealed ... hope yours is quicker 
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    My wife had her Tribunal at Chester last week.   That was a 44 week wait when they said the average in our area was 33 weeks(!)

    If anyone else is heading for Chester, the building is pretty well hidden behind a derelict girls' school behind the amphitheatre.   The panel sit on a raised bench and ask some pretty searching questions.   

    They posted the result to us which arrived two days later.   Hardly dare open the letter, but we had won!!!
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
    Cheshire2 said:
    My wife had her Tribunal at Chester last week.   That was a 44 week wait when they said the average in our area was 33 weeks(!)

    If anyone else is heading for Chester, the building is pretty well hidden behind a derelict girls' school behind the amphitheatre.   The panel sit on a raised bench and ask some pretty searching questions.   

    They posted the result to us which arrived two days later.   Hardly dare open the letter, but we had won!!!
    That’s good news on your win. Well done for persevering
  • donna63031donna63031 Posts: 5Member Listener
    Hi,
    I am awaiting for my date, in my area its over a year waiting time, Bradford.
    How long where you and your wife at the  tribunal for and did you feel you could answer all the questions put to you by the panel, did you take any paperwork with you.
    Sorry for asking soo many questions, 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    Cheshire2 said:
    My wife had her Tribunal at Chester last week.   That was a 44 week wait when they said the average in our area was 33 weeks(!)

    If anyone else is heading for Chester, the building is pretty well hidden behind a derelict girls' school behind the amphitheatre.   The panel sit on a raised bench and ask some pretty searching questions.   

    They posted the result to us which arrived two days later.   Hardly dare open the letter, but we had won!!!
    The panel is different every session so no conclusions can be drawn on that front. The venue is much better than it used to be. Unbelievably it used to be inside the JCP building on City Road.
  • justg72justg72 Posts: 108Member Talkative
    Hi misstracey and all who are going to a tribunal,
    I am from Bradford too and I have been told 54 weeks I could be waiting so that could be September 2019 in all I would have been waiting 1 and a half years. If I win it will be for a very short time as it runs out in March 2020. My heart goes out to each and everyone of you, who is having to fight for their benefits. Its so hard living and coping with your health problems daily without all the added stress and suffering from been turned down for PIP!  The long tribunal waiting times just make the situation worse. I wish all of you all the luck in the world and hope you all receive the benefits you all rightly deserve.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    justg72 said:
    Hi misstracey and all who are going to a tribunal,
    I am from Bradford too and I have been told 54 weeks I could be waiting so that could be September 2019 in all I would have been waiting 1 and a half years. If I win it will be for a very short time as it runs out in March 2020. My heart goes out to each and everyone of you, who is having to fight for their benefits. Its so hard living and coping with your health problems daily without all the added stress and suffering from been turned down for PIP!  The long tribunal waiting times just make the situation worse. I wish all of you all the luck in the world and hope you all receive the benefits you all rightly deserve.
    Reviews are done 1 year before the award is due to end. With an award until March 2020 your review will be March 2019.
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    Hi,
    I am awaiting for my date, in my area its over a year waiting time, Bradford.
    How long where you and your wife at the  tribunal for and did you feel you could answer all the questions put to you by the panel, did you take any paperwork with you.
    Sorry for asking soo many questions, 
    Taking the questions in turn:

    Worth ringing the number on your Tribunal letter to check how long before your case will be heard.    We both got the impression that our case had been "lost" till we rang.

    We arrived at the building 15 minutes before the appointment - there is an airport style search and it makes sense to sit and compose yourself.  The previous case over-ran so we were 15 minutes late going in.   From the case actually starting to being back on the pavement outside I reckon was about 45 minutes, but we didn't really note the time.   Also there was only one descriptor under discussion.   Have read of cases going on over an hour.

    I have a folder with everything in it, so took that.   I would suggest at minimum you take the bundle of documents that the court sent (it's a copy of everything you submitted plus DWP reply).   Also originals of any documents just in case judge wants to satisfy himself they are genuine.   

    For a couple of weeks beforehand we had read through the papers and I tried to ask my wife what I thought were the most probable questions so she could practice saying the answers out loud.   Don't aim to remember 'perfect' wording, just an outline of things you can say or important points.  Take a pause for breath before you start talking.   She was happy answering all the questions.   The only exception was the one asked by the disability expert, which seemed long and confusing.   My wife merely re-iterated her problems and the judge seemed happy.

    I had to keep quiet while my wife was questioned, but I was allowed to speak afterwards - I had a few rough notes prepared,   

    You WILL feel nervous, but remember these are the first intelligent people you are going to talk to about the claim.   You are an expert on the subject in the sense that nobody knows more about how your problems affect you.   

    Finally, try this YouTube video.   I know it's about Northern Ireland, but it was useful for us.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16zduVcxsLM

    Hope all this helps you, and that you get a hearing soon.


  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,235Member Brian Blessed
    Cheshire2 said:

    Also originals of any documents just in case judge wants to satisfy himself they are genuine.   
    A very good point especially given that there are some excellent 'artists' that can forge anything including what appears to be medical reports, and test results! I have even seen what appeared to be a genuine HMRC self assessment that purported to show very little income - the paper, the printing and even some of the calculations looked perfect - that is until I had hold of a copy sent to me by HMRC showing figures of income that would make your eyes water.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    Really? And again!!! Why the focus on negative stuff that is literally unheard of. Social security is adjudicated on the balance of probabilities. One document won’t swing anything and I’ve never met a tribunal in 32 years with the need to establish the authenticity of a document. Not one. Ever. That’s North Wales, Cheshire, Greater Manchester, Devon and Cornwall and 3 decades. 

    If there’s ever a shadow of doubt about a document they simply give it less weight and move on. 
  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    .... I’ve never met a tribunal in 32 years with the need to establish the authenticity of a document. Not one. Ever. That’s North Wales, Cheshire, Greater Manchester, Devon and Cornwall and 3 decades. ....
    I bow to your greater knowledge of Tribunals!   I was merely going on the advice of a disability rights solicitor who advised me to post a copy of a document to the Tribunal and take the original to the hearing.   Fitted with my experience at work where folk would frequently ask me to comment on a letter that they had kept at home...
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,235Member Brian Blessed
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    Yadnad said:
    Cheshire2 said:

    Also originals of any documents just in case judge wants to satisfy himself they are genuine.   
    A very good point especially given that there are some excellent 'artists' that can forge anything including what appears to be medical reports, and test results! I have even seen what appeared to be a genuine HMRC self assessment that purported to show very little income - the paper, the printing and even some of the calculations looked perfect - that is until I had hold of a copy sent to me by HMRC showing figures of income that would make your eyes water.
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    For your information and I don't really know why I should even reply to your post, but yes I used to work for the government and yes I have spent my whole career in never taking anything that the public say or write at face value.

    I am aware of and see the possibility of deception in most things especially where the public and the government are involved I have had 44 years of experience in doing so.

    Always work on the principle that if evidence supporting a statement is sent in then that statement should be given the weight it deserves. I have come across many that simply expect the government to accept everything a claimant says is the whole truth. 

    In the meantime I have reported your post as being inflammatory and the personal insults as likely to give rise to doubting my integrity.  
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  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    This forum is about supporting people and not for throwing accusations and remarks like that. There's no need to use hurtful comments like that, that's specifically aimed at one member. The comments have been reported.
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    This forum is about supporting people and not for throwing accusations and remarks like that. There's no need to use hurtful comments like that, that's specifically aimed at one member. The comments have been reported.
    So?! He’s put it in plain English. It’s people like him that are the reason people like me have to go thru this appeal system! I stand by what I said, he and every other person working in the government sector are vile humans! Why else would they see so many of us suffer needlessly? Wake up and smell the coffee!
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Posts: 4,135Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    I do not need to read this type comment and will be pressing the ignore button
    May I suggest that this is an appropriate course of action which anyone can take with this type of individual
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    I agree @CockneyRebel the ignore feature is always the best in these situations.
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    I have also reported the post. I profoundly disagree with @yadnad’s post almost as much as @anonymous1981 but that wasn’t an appropriate response and the ignore button is not enough for posts like that.
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    I have also reported the post. I profoundly disagree with @yadnad’s post almost as much as @anonymous1981 but that wasn’t an appropriate response and the ignore button is not enough for posts like that.
    I really don’t care 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    We gathered. No doubt you’ll feel terribly hard done by in due course but your posts speak for themselves. Having an opinion is fine. Expressing an opinion is equally fine. Doing so offensively is not. 
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
    When it comes to people like that? Yes!
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
    When it comes to people like that? Yes!
    I think you’ve made your point. Would you now please refrain mate... there really is no need
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
    When it comes to people like that? Yes!
    There's really no need at all! You've had your say, now please leave it at that.
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
    When it comes to people like that? Yes!
    I think you’ve made your point. Would you now please refrain mate... there really is no need
    Wouldn’t it be great if we could say that to these government workers? But no we can’t! We just have to accept the punishments they put in place like sanctions and taking clearly disabled people off benefits. When that stops, I’ll stop.
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    Is there really any need for such foul, disgusting language?
    When it comes to people like that? Yes!
    There's really no need at all! You've had your say, now please leave it at that.
    You’ve had your say, you leave it! I’ll never stand down for what I believe in! Ever! 
  • Rosie1650Rosie1650 Posts: 15Member Whisperer
    No words.........
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    If only...

    Anyone who believes government employees are doing stuff on purpose to them personally has issues no forum should even think of addressing. Please just report the posts.
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    If only...

    Anyone who believes government employees are doing stuff on purpose to them personally has issues no forum should even think of addressing. Please just report the posts.
    Not personally, across the board! When employees are given cash incentives to get as many people off pip then what is that? 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    A number of posts have been reported by several people. My delusion will be staying around. 

    It’s actually really easy to argue with stupidity. You just pick it apart with facts. Abuse is what you do when you don’t have facts. No-one is saying they’re helping. However, the idea that when they don’t help they’re doing so on purpose and aimed just at you is just exaggerated abject nonsense. 
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    A number of posts have been reported by several people. My delusion will be staying around. 

    It’s actually really easy to argue with stupidity. You just pick it apart with facts. Abuse is what you do when you don’t have facts. No-one is saying they’re helping. However, the idea that when they don’t help they’re doing so on purpose and aimed just at you is just exaggerated abject nonsense. 
    What facts? I’ve given you facts, you’ve gave me nothing. 
  • anonymous1981anonymous1981 Posts: 15Member - under moderation Listener
    A number of posts have been reported by several people. My delusion will be staying around. 

    It’s actually really easy to argue with stupidity. You just pick it apart with facts. Abuse is what you do when you don’t have facts. No-one is saying they’re helping. However, the idea that when they don’t help they’re doing so on purpose and aimed just at you is just exaggerated abject nonsense. 
    I’ve got better things to do than argue about the C U N T that worked for the government. I’m not gonna repeat myself in response to you Nancy’s defending this C U N T. Report away guys cos I’d rather be blocked than be amongst people who thing I’m wrong. 
  • TardisTardis Posts: 133Member Talkative
    This forum is about supporting people and not for throwing accusations and remarks like that. There's no need to use hurtful comments like that, that's specifically aimed at one member. The comments have been reported.
    So?! He’s put it in plain English. It’s people like him that are the reason people like me have to go thru this appeal system! I stand by what I said, he and every other person working in the government sector are vile humans! Why else would they see so many of us suffer needlessly? Wake up and smell the coffee!
    Every person?  My kids have had 6 assessments between them.  All assessors were kind, considerate and gave the award that I thought was deserved.  Including the paper assessment where the nurse phoned me up to let me know she had completed it.  On top of that, almost all DWP call centre staff I have spoken to over the years have been great.  Very helpful and understanding.  There are massive problems with the system.  Mainly down to government policy.  Not down to ordinary working folk who are doing their best within the system.  And no, I have never worked for the government.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 4,782Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    I'll also add to that @Tardis. I've had 3 successful ESA decisions, 1 of those was paper based and all decisions were Support Group. This includes my most recent ESA face to face just over 2 weeks ago.

    I've also had 2 successful PIP assessments. At review my award was increased. My daughter has also had a successful PIP award. All assessment reports were completely honest and truthful, including every single HCP being very friendly and extremely helpful during all my face to face assessment.

  • snakes2505snakes2505 Posts: 5Member Listener
    Took me 16 months from starting the claim. DWP scored me 0 points. Then asked them to look again n i got 1 point lol. Got to court n was given 27 points! Waiting all that time payed off thank god. Nearly died 3 times waiting tho. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Posts: 2,896Member Brian Blessed
    Keep this up folks. Killing unpleasant sweeping generalisations with factual personal stories. Great stuff. 
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Posts: 4,135Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Thanks Sam
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  • C_Herath2009C_Herath2009 Posts: 26Member Listener
    Please lets all be kind and support each other its fine to disagree?But some off the languge above is totally unsceptable having any kind off disability is bad enough .I got eventually through to a lovely lady who has posted me a new form said from my notes its highly unlikely i will have to go to a tribunal.There are reasons to support each other .Its a judgemental world out there (But there is no reason to be distasteful and abusive towards other people-(There is a four letter word that needs removing above )Its still on view and needs removing imediately it exceptionaly offensive
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
    Update on my tribunal outcome

    i have just got back from Court and I won the tribunal! 

    Ive waited nearly 2 years for this and I was in Court for less than an hour - the DWP didn’t even turn up and the judge, Dr and Disability expert were all lovely. They made the decision after a 5 minute recess, emailed it to the DWP immediately and also advised its backdated to the beginning of the claim....it’s been a nightmare journey but it’s been awarded for 3 years and I’ll focus now on getting better 
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  • Cheshire2Cheshire2 Posts: 12Member Whisperer
    Latest update.   It's just over three weeks since our Tribunal result and we have received a letter from DWP acknowledging it and saying the money will be paid next week.
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
  • affii1993affii1993 Posts: 52Member Whisperer
    @Weedavey72 what did u get and congratulations 
  • Weedavey72Weedavey72 Posts: 19Member Whisperer
    Thanks @affii1993 I got what I was hoping for - thanks 👍👍
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