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LCWRA and childcare costs

janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
Hi all, 
I have been on LCW for 18 months but my condition has gotten considerably worse recently and I've now been moved onto LCWRA.

My partner works full time 40hrs/week

Our youngest child is in childcare with an Ofsted register childminder.
we were getting help with the costs previously (whilst on LCW) but this is my first months payment for LCWRA and I've noticed that there is no help with childcare costs! We paid around £200 to our childcare provider, which I submitted to UC as per usual, but there is nothing for it. 

Is this correct? Do we not get help with childcare anymore? 
I desperately need the childcare to help me when times are bad with my health so feel very worried and concerned about this. 

Thank you in advance,
Jane 

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    Was your partner paid more than usual during the last assessment period, or did they receive two wages during this time? If so then this can affect the amount of UC you're paid. The more you earn the less childcare you can claim, not counting yourself of course.
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  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thanks for the reply. No he didn't, he was paid the same as usual
  • kaza814kaza814 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    Depending the date you made the payment they may be expecting you to wait until next month. I'm now in extreme financial difficulty due to universal credits. My son was in nursery and was removed with immediate effect for his own welfare so nursery now won't provide proof of receiving payment but I was able to provide the police reference number ect.
    Has to then pay a month upfront for childminder and got £43 'due to their dates' even though it's for the full month.  Since then I have also had to pay October childcare fees and won't get the rest of sept fees until 18th Oct. So I'm 3 months childcare fees out £670 a month and £43 from universal credit with comments like '''thats just the way it is" from work coaches
  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Kara814 
    that's rubbish, I think that's the problem with them not giving any Consideration into these kind of circumstances. Hope you get it sorted soon. It's just so hard to fork out money when you don't have it!

    So are you on LWCRA and get help towards your childcare then?

    Jane 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    janesh said:


    So are you on LWCRA and get help towards your childcare then?

    Jane 
    Yes this can be claimed under these circumstances...

    You must be in paid work to receive childcare support from Universal Credit.

    If you are a claiming with a partner both of you normally need to be in work to receive this help. However, you may be able to get childcare support if one of you is not working and is unable to provide childcare themselves because they:

    • have limited capability for work
    • have caring responsibilities for a severely disabled person
    • are temporarily absent from the household
    https://www.understandinguniversalcredit.gov.uk/new-to-universal-credit/children-and-childcare/

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  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thank you Poppy, that's fab. Although do you think LCW includes LCWRA? 
    I Can't seem to find anything online to confirm it and I'm so worried
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes LCW is Limited capability for work and LCWRA is limited capability for work related activity. They both mean you have a limited capability for work.
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  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Oh thank goodness! Ah that's such a relief. 
    It must just be a mistake then and I'm assuming they will backdate it. I need the help with childcare now more than ever and was hoping to up it to more. 
    Thank you so much for helping me to understand this. 
    ive written a note to the UC people asking but they still haven't replied after a few days! 
    Thanks again 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    having looked at the childcare criteria again for UC i am not not 100% sure if LCWRA will qualify you for childcare. I know LCW does but it's not clear to mean if LCWRA does. There's a slight difference between them both in terms of what they mean. Therefore i would advise you to get expert advice regarding this if you have problems when you contact UC because you may no longer qualify because you now have LCWRA. I'm sorry i can't be more definite than this but i really can't find a specific answer to your question.
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  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Same here, I just keep finding such mixed answers I'm ending up in circles! I have everything crossed that UC will get back to me soon with a definite answer. I'll update here when they do 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 2018
    Be aware that DWP are not always spot on with their advice, especially when it comes to UC. Good luck.
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  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    I don't think anyone seems to understand UC, even the people that work there! 
    Still no word from them, but I just spoke to someone on the Entitled To chat and they didn't know either! 
  • janeshjanesh Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Just found this...

    3. If you have a partner

    If you are part of a couple you must both be in paid work, or have accepted an offer of paid work. Childcare costs may be paid if 1 partner is working and the other can’t look after the child or children because they:

    • have limited capability for work or limited capability for work and work related activity
    • care for a severely disabled adult or severely disabled child
    • are temporarily absent from the household (for example, in hospital, residential care or in custody)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,683 Disability Gamechanger
    This was my first thoughts yes but then when i looked further i started to doubt myself and really didn't want to give you the wrong advice. I tried looking on the internet but everywhere i search said the same thing. Seems like my first thoughts were correct. Hopefully, it's true and you'll hear back from DWP soon. Good luck.
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