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worried about PIP decision

SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
edited January 11 in PIP, DLA and AA
HI.  i am 69 and have been on disability for yrears and they told me then i would be on it for life because my condition would get worse and it has, now i had to have a woman come to see me to access me for this pip thing now i am so scared they are going to knock me of disability and give me nothing, so i got the report and it looks like double dutch so i cant tell whether its good or bad because i dont know what i am looking for, i am so scared of the decision

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,065Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Hi,

    Somewhere in the back of the report there should be boxes with dots. These are what the health care professional would have recommended you score during the assessment. You need to look at the PIP descriptor to add up what you may have scored, if anything. You can do this using the PIP self test here. http://www.mybenefitsandwork.co.uk/pip/indexxx.php

    All you need to do is put the dots in the same place on the self test as they are in the report. At the end the self test will add up any score you may have.

    The usually go with the report, it's rare to go against it. You will need to wait for a decision of course. Once a decision is made your DLA will stop 4 weeks later. If successful with the PIP then your PIP starts 4 weeks after that. Good luck.


  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thank you so much for your reply, but i have looked at it again and there are no dots anywhere only the boxes she ticked
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,862Member - under moderation Brian Blessed
    I really do hope that you have a better time of the PIP conversion than I did.
    I'm 70  and for the past 5 years I have had 3 PIP face to face assessments that resulted in no points, no award.
    This was despite being on DLA (High Mobility/High Care) since 1995.
    Like you my health is only going one way and that is downwards. Most of what is wrong with me will eventually kill me well before my time.

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,065Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Thank you so much for your reply, but i have looked at it again and there are no dots anywhere only the boxes she ticked
    It's those ticks you need to look at against the PIP descriptors in the link i posted above. If you do what i advised above then the self test will tell you what score, if anything was recommended.
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thank you i have done it, but can you tell me do they go by what she says or do they change it
  • Pippa_ScopePippa_Scope Posts: 5,858Member Brian Blessed
    Hi @SAMandCHARLEY, thank you for sharing this with us and well done for getting through the assessment, I know they can be tough.

    Unfortunately nobody can predict what your outcome will be, but fingers crossed you'll hear soon. Do keep us updated!
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thank you so much and as soon as i hear anything i will let you know, but after talking to you in the first place i feel a bit easy now :)
  • April2018momApril2018mom Posts: 198Member Chatterbox
    If you generally feel uncomfortable with your assessment I would ask for a mandatory reconsideration. Do the self test online and see what you get. How many boxes were ticked? 
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Hello this waiting time for a pip decision is terrible, i have now been waiting 6 wks and still nothing, i wonder if the old saying is true, no news is good news
  • atlas46atlas46 Posts: 509Member, Community champion Chatterbox
    Hi

    As a general rule of thumb, from date of PIP assessment, to getting Award letter is eight weeks.

    Keep an eye on your bank account for payments from DWP, as often payments are made before Award letter arrives.

    Have you worked out what points your were awarded from you assessment report?

    The DWP usually go with these recommendations by the HCP.

    Keep us informed.
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Hi thanks for that but i am on disability any way, they have changed me over to this pip, and its that decision which has got me nervous, i did count the points but i am scared in case they change their minds

  • wilkowilko Posts: 1,328Member Chatterbox
    Since you have the report you now have a good idea what your award may or will be but like you post it’s the waiting, if the report looks good and it just a matter of waiting for the official confirmation of your award.
  • atlas46atlas46 Posts: 509Member, Community champion Chatterbox
    Hi

    To qualify my advice about checking bank statement.

    If you are currently getting DLA, payments will show NI number DWP DLA.

    If you get PIP, payments will show NI number DWP PIP.
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thanks for getting back to me, i know your right but its playing the waiting game and i am also afraid that they wont take the word of the report and that they will make up their own mind
  • atlas46atlas46 Posts: 509Member, Community champion Chatterbox
    Hi

    Please be assured, the case manager cannot change the assessment report or the points awarded.

    There is nothing to stop you phoning the PIP helpline each week, for a progress update. They should advice you over the phone, if an award has been made.

    There has been no reports on this forum of any changes made to assessors recommendations. This is not unsurprising, as a case manager has no medical
    knowledge or capability of disability assessment.

    Hope this helps.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,065Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    edited February 2
    I agree with the advice that they usually go with the report and the assessment report can't be changed.

    What i disagree with is that the points in the report is just a recommendation there's no award at that point, the decision maker can disagree and not go against the report.It's very rare that this happens but it can and does happen.  The points in the report are definitely not an award.
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thank you everyone for all your information, its been very helpful
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Hi everone just to let you all know , i recieved my PIP this morning after 8 wks and it has not changed from the disability i was already getting, so i am very pleased about this, and i want to thank you all for puting my mind at ease
  • ilovecatsilovecats Posts: 341Member Chatterbox
    Hi everone just to let you all know , i recieved my PIP this morning after 8 wks and it has not changed from the disability i was already getting, so i am very pleased about this, and i want to thank you all for puting my mind at ease
    Yay! A success story! Thank you for sharing
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,065Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Great news, well done :)
  • SAMandCHARLEYSAMandCHARLEY Posts: 32Member Whisperer
    Thank you all so much
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