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Severe disability premium advise

I recently won an appeal for PIP at a tribunal and will be getting back dated payments from November 2018 when I applied for PIP. I am currently getting income related ESA (Support Group) and was wondering if I am entitled to Severe disability premium as extra money on the ESA I’m getting. Also, will the Severe disability premium be back dated from November 2018 too. Please advise 

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  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    I forgot to mention I was awarded PIP Standard Rate Daily Living allowance.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    Great news on the PIP decision.

    That will depend if it's definitely Income Related ESA you receive and not New style ESA. Income Related ESA support Group is £128.45 per week.

    If so then to be entitled to the SDP you must live alone or be classed as living alone, this means that no one over the age of 18 must be living with you, unless they are dependent children and you're still claiming child benefit for them.

    If you live with another adult then they must also be claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living,. DLA mid/hgh rate care or Attendance Allowance.

    If that applies to you then you will need to wait for your PIP award to be put into payment and then you'll be able to ring ESA to claim for the SDP and yes it will be backdated to the start of your PIP award.

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  • Dotty123Dotty123 Member Posts: 492 Pioneering
    Hi think you need high pip to get sdp live alone 
  • woodbinewoodbine Member Posts: 1,094 Pioneering
    Either rate of PIP care counts, but as above you must live alone or with somebody who also qualifies, and nobody must be getting carers allowance for you.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    Dotty123 said:
    Hi think you need high pip to get sdp

    Sorry but that's not the correct advice. As Woodbine has advised, any rate of daily living PIP as well as the other qualifying criteria.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Dotty123Dotty123 Member Posts: 492 Pioneering
    Sorry I thought you had have hi pip 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    Dotty123 said:
    Sorry I thought you had have hi pip 

    No. See link for confirmation of what is needed. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/severe-disability-premium




    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • nanooknanook Member Posts: 6 Listener
    According to that link I'm supposed to qualify for sdp, however I've been refused it by DWP and cant get any of the disablement premiums I'm supposed to.
    Maybe it's a postcode lottery type benefit?

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    nanook said:
    According to that link I'm supposed to qualify for sdp, however I've been refused it by DWP and cant get any of the disablement premiums I'm supposed to.
    Maybe it's a postcode lottery type benefit?


    Hi,

    If you're claiming New style ESA then this will be the reason why you can't claim any of the disability premiums because they are not awarded on this ESA.

    When did your claim for ESA start? What group are you in and do you claim PIP daily living or DLA mid.high rate care.

    With no information it will be impossible to help you further.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    I’ve been getting ESA since 2013. I was on the WRAG in 2013 and moved onto ESA Support Group in 2015. Am I on the new style ESA? 

    If not, then I tick all the boxes for to get the Severe Disability Premium as I live alone.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    Artmuzz said:
    I’ve been getting ESA since 2013. I was on the WRAG in 2013 and moved onto ESA Support Group in 2015. Am I on the new style ESA? 

    If not, then I tick all the boxes for to get the Severe Disability Premium as I live alone.

    My previous comment wasn't for you, it was for another person that commented on your thread.

    As you're claiming Income related ESA then you will be entitled to the SDP if you live alone. Do be aware though that if someone claims carers allowance for looking after you in the future then you will lose the SDP.

    Once your award is in payment then ring ESA to claim the SDP as advised.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    Artmuzz said:
    I’ve been getting ESA since 2013. I was on the WRAG in 2013 and moved onto ESA Support Group in 2015. Am I on the new style ESA? 

    If not, then I tick all the boxes for to get the Severe Disability Premium as I live alone.

    My previous comment wasn't for you, it was for another person that commented on your thread.

    As you're claiming Income related ESA then you will be entitled to the SDP if you live alone. Do be aware though that if someone claims carers allowance for looking after you in the future then you will lose the SDP.

    Once your award is in payment then ring ESA to claim the SDP as advised.
    Yes I know your previous comment wasn’t for me but I was just asking in general if I am on the new style ESA as I was awarded ESA Support Group in 2015.
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 9,383 Scope community team
    Thank you everyone for your support here. Just to let you know @Artmuzz, I have merged your two threads as it was a duplicate post. :)
    Community Partner
    Scope
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2019
    @Artmuzz it won't be New style because of the start date of your claim.
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  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    edited December 2019
    @Artmuzz it won't be New style because of the start date of your claim.

    That’s good to know. Thanks.

    However, I am a bit disappointed because my PIP award is only for 2 years but with the carry on with failing the assessment and having to wait for an appeal I have only 11 months left on PIP as in November 2020 I will have to reapply for it and be reassessed.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    No problem.

    Sadly this happens alot because the waiting times for hearings are so long.

    As you were awarded by the Tribunal then DWP will contact you about 14 weeks before the award is due to end. When you receive those forms my advice is to fill them out with as much information as possible about how your conditions affect you. Adding a couple of real life examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you.

    Hopefully next time you won't have to take it to Tribunal.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    I got my first PIP payment this week. Would it be a good idea for me to phone ESA and tell them so I can get the Severe Disability Premium on my income related ESA Support Group?

    Someone mentioned above that people getting income related ESA Support Group get £128 a week added to their ESA. Is this correct?
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    Artmuzz said:
    I got my first PIP payment this week. Would it be a good idea for me to phone ESA and tell them so I can get the Severe Disability Premium on my income related ESA Support Group?

    Someone mentioned above that people getting income related ESA Support Group get £128 a week added to their ESA. Is this correct?

    If you live alone and no one claims carers allowance for looking after you then yes you'll qualify for the SDP providing it's income related you're claiming. SDP for a single person is an extra £65.85 per week and not £128. You'll need to ring ESA to claim the SDP and ask for it to be backdated to the start of your PIP award, if the criteria applied at that time.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    edited January 14
    Artmuzz said:
    I got my first PIP payment this week. Would it be a good idea for me to phone ESA and tell them so I can get the Severe Disability Premium on my income related ESA Support Group?

    Someone mentioned above that people getting income related ESA Support Group get £128 a week added to their ESA. Is this correct?

    If you live alone and no one claims carers allowance for looking after you then yes you'll qualify for the SDP providing it's income related you're claiming. SDP for a single person is an extra £65.85 per week and not £128. You'll need to ring ESA to claim the SDP and ask for it to be backdated to the start of your PIP award, if the criteria applied at that time.
    Thanks for the info. I tick all the boxes for being entitled for it.

    I phoned the DWP and did the form over the phone to get SDP. The woman told me that I will hear in 10 days whether I am entitled to it. This has got me worried. What if I don’t get it even though I tick all the boxes for being entitled.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    If you tick all the boxes then there's nothing to worry about.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz Member Posts: 39 Listener
    edited February 3
    I got accepted for Severe Disability Premium which means I get more money on my ESA. I was wondering will I still get full housing benefit and council tax benefit since I’m getting more money on my ESA with SDP? Please advise.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    The SDP will not affect any other benefits in a bad way and you'll continue to receive what you were receiving before the SDP was added.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • s1m0ns1m0n Member Posts: 5 Connected
    Sorry to hijack thread , I am also interested in knowing if i would qualify , I get pip standard living and topped up esa income related. I only get the enhanced disability premium. However I still live with my parents due to certain circumstances but essentially i am my own person. My mom gets pip both enhanced .
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 19,198 Disability Gamechanger
    s1m0n said:
    Sorry to hijack thread , I am also interested in knowing if i would qualify , I get pip standard living and topped up esa income related. I only get the enhanced disability premium. However I still live with my parents due to certain circumstances but essentially i am my own person. My mom gets pip both enhanced .
    Hi, 

    You say you live with parents, if this is both parents then they will both need to be claiming a qualifying benefit such as PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care for you to qualify. No one must also be claiming carers allowance or carers element of universal credit for looking after you. 
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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