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dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
Hi I applied for pip may 2019 but was awarded no points did md still no points so appealed to tribunal. Today I received my bundle I'm assuming it's of dwp.so what happens now.a lady who represented me is from citezen advice who phoned me in nov 19 to say once I receive the bundle as she will also have copies of it.to make appointment.my anxiety is now through the roof.any advice would be greatful thank you 

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    You will need to go through that bundle. Contact the person from your local CAB who will support you with this. You will also need to send your submission but the person from CAB will also assist you with that. Other than that all you can do is wait for a hearing date.
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456 thank you for you're response.i phoned cab today the lady dealing with it has also received the bundle.but not in work till tomorrow so they said they left her a note and she will contact me with a date.i been really calm but now I'm dreading it.i have also asked my psychiatrist to write me a letter.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Can someone help please.since receiving the bundle yesterday I have not slept being sick because of it.constantly breaking down.i asked for oral hearing because the lady representing me said I will stand a better chance rather than a paper based hearing.i suffer really bad with anxiety I just don't know what to do.
    Thank you for reading 
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 657 Pioneering
    Can someone help please.since receiving the bundle yesterday I have not slept being sick because of it.constantly breaking down.i asked for oral hearing because the lady representing me said I will stand a better chance rather than a paper based hearing.i suffer really bad with anxiety I just don't know what to do.
    Thank you for reading 
    Has the lady at CAB contacted you today?  You (and her) will have to go through the bundle to decide which parts are wrong and what you disagree with.  You can also send extra information if you have any.  After that it will just be a long waiting game unfortunately, all you can do is wait to hear when the tribunal date will be.

    I am currently in that last stage, just waiting for the date now, but it might be another 6 months wait (or more) so just trying not to think about it at the moment!!
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    I know it's very stressful but until the person from CAB contacts you there's really nothing you can do. Try to think of something else, yes i know that's difficult too but you could be waiting several more months and it's not going to help your condition by constantly thinking about it.

    You were advised correctly that appearing in person is much better and gives you a better chance of a decision is your favour.

    Hopefully, you'll be contacted by your local CAB sometime today or tomorrow.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Hi thank you both for responding.i not long came of the phone to cab the lady dealing with it is in with another client said would ring back at 1 clock.reading the letter of dwp what does it mean when they say .(we looked at the points you raised in you're appeal and we've sent our response to HMCTS for them to consider.) I'm sorry to keep on.i just need some reassurance. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    DWP will most likely request the appeal to be dismissed because this usually happens, of course they don't think you're entitled to it, which is why you weren't awarded. This is nothing at all to worry about and is standard procedure but HMCTS won't dismiss it
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Thank you @poppy123456ihad meeting last week with cab the lady representing me.she has sent of the submission.so I take it.its just a waiting game now.
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 10,182 Scope community team
    Thank you for the update @dillongirl. Please do let us know how you get on. :)
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Chloe_Scope I just received my date for tribunal it's on the 13th march 1.30 had to be on the 13th didn't it my nerves and anxiety going to be awful now.🙄
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 10,182 Scope community team
    Sorry to hear the tribunal date is causing you to feel really anxious. Do you have anyone who can attend with you?
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Chloe_Scope
    Yes my daughter is taking me.im concerned because I get brain fog.is knowing how to.answer anything they going to.ask.me.i just go into.a world of my own
    I not slept properly since receiving the letter

  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 10,182 Scope community team
    Hi @dillongirl, I'm glad your daughter is able to go with you. Your concerns are understandable, would you find it helpful to take notes in with you? You are more than entitled to this, and your daughter can help during the assessment too.

    I really hope you can get some rest soon, I imagine the lack of sleep is not helping. 
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Chloe_Scope
    Hiyah just a quick question. My representative sent me a email yesterday for me to read the submission.she then phoned me to say to check it and send a email back to go ahead and send it as tribunal is in march.she also got hold of the lady that does  my counselling for PTSD. She is also drafting a letter to send to tribunal. Does the tribunal send a copy of the submission to dwp? And can dwp still change their minds before tribunal hearing.tia 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member - under moderation Posts: 4,849 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes to both. 
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 10,182 Scope community team
    Thanks for answering here @mikehughescq. :)
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member - under moderation Posts: 4,849 Disability Gamechanger
    Although if the DWP change their mind you need to beware the “offer”.

  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Hi everyone.
    Just to update .I had a call yesterday of my representative she offerd me a lift to the tribunal but my daughter is taking me but the lady is going to meet me there as she got a case before me.although I was going to throw the towel in because my anxiety is really bad.but she said not to do that because she said I got a real good case.i do feel a bit better knowing that she will be there to support me through it.what makes it worse is it's on 13th of may and a friday.but I will update once its finished with.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Sorry 13th march 
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 657 Pioneering
    Good luck for next week :smile:
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @OverlyAnxious thank you glad u said next week I thought it was another two weeks away 😳but il update u all once it's done and dusted.thank you all for being so supportive x
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Hi sorry to bother you all again.only two more days till I go tribunal. I received a copy of the submission that was sent to.the courts of my representative. I got so much paper work I'm confused and very forgetful.i know I got to take the bundle to court with me.i don't even know how to explain myself I tried reading most of it but I forget what I have read.can someone advice me on this please my anxiety is all over the place.not sleeping had a flare up with my bowels again it happens every 3 weeks so I'm constantly on antibiotics .I'm worried because im scares that I get over anxious that I don't have no control over my bowels.what if I mess myself I'm constantly crying .i really can't cope with this.i now wish I just left it be.its when they ask me questions I get all flustered and I forget what they ask me.my memory is just awful and the not knowing what they going to ask me and how to answer them the correct way.please help me 
    Thank you for reading 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm sorry to hear this is causing you so much stress. Please take a deep breath and try to calm down, i know that's very difficult. The panel will be understanding and they will allow you time to answer. If you don't understand what they've asked you then ask them to repeat the question again. Do you have someone to go with you on the day? maybe a family member or friend?

    No one can tell you what questions they will ask or how to answer them because no one knows anything about your case or about how your conditions affect you.

    My advice is to just do your best because that's really all you can do. If a decision's not made on the day then this is perfectly normal and it doesn't mean it's not gone in your favour. Lots of people have to wait for a decision, which should be sent to you within a couple of days after the hearing.

    Good luck and please do let us know the outcome.
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Thank you for replying.my daughter is taking me but her friend is coming as well just for support.the lady who's representing me phone me the other day asking how I'm getting there so I said my daughter.so she said she will meet us there because she got a case before mine.which I thought was really nice of her.but I'm just worried I'm going to mess up I heard so many different stories.its going to be hard going sitting I front of people I don't know.worried I'm going to have a anxiety attack.then they will postpone.the women from atos who did my assessment put on the report from when she assessed me saying I don't take medication for moods but I do I take beatablockers matirezapam amitriptyline and on loads of other medication she even read the meds I was taking out to me at my house.also said I walked 50 meters I didnt even walk anywhere was in that much of a state she said if u don't pull yourself together I will have to stop this and come back again.she kept saying that's irrelevant to me.my daughter was meant to stay with me but she got called into work.so I had no witness. But even before my daughter left she told the women I get very anxious and overwhelmed did she want to look at any paper work she said with a stern voice its you're mother I want to speak to I won't take into account what u say.and that she don't need to see any paperwork.the list goes on.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    You're welcome. You need to try to forget what was written in the report and what did or didn't happen during the assessment. That's all in the past now and you can't prove the lies/contradictions. You have representation which means you have the best chance of a decision in your favour. Lots of people aren't able to get representation because it's not available in their area.

    If you have any questions then you should speak to your rep before the hearing takes place because they will know everything about your case.


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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Thank you for the advice.you just feel so lost.i used to get dla or what ever it was called before pip.and I got pip without any problems.going back in 2013 till 2016.my mum passed away and so did my mum sister within 10 days of each other. From cancer then the dreaded letter came to have assessment I stupidly looked for something to do but I cant hold jobs down at all lasted a couple of months got dismissed on I'll health my children and husband begged me not to do it because they knew I'd be off more than I would be in work.because I was in so much pain I would cry everytime my daughter collected me.im under mental health team also was diagnosed with PTSD. I got a lot of health issues to many to write down.il give my representative a call tomorrow because she did say I got a good case.because i was ready to throw the towel in.im so sorry for going on just need reasuren that everything is going to go ok.o tried to think positively but its hard going.x
  • Alice_HoltAlice_Holt Member Posts: 46 Courageous
    edited March 11
    In my experience tribunal panels are very good at calming people. They will be considerate and will listen to you. Just try to answer their questions as fully and truthfully as possible. 
    You have the great advantage of a submission and medical evidence. The demand on representative's is so great that they would not do a submission if they thought your case didn't have merit.

    Remember that it is the job of the tribunal to determine if the DWP decision is wrong or right. They already have the reps submission explaining why it is wrong.
    They are not there to judge you.
    Just give them the information they ask for, as fully and truthfully as you can. 

    Good luck. 
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Alice_Holt
    Thank you very much that's made me feel  a lot better I will update once it's over 🤞x
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Alice_Holt
    Hi just to update you all about my tribunal there was a judge a doctor and a disabled lady and dwp there in was so scared I broke down before I even was called in my representative and my daughter and my daughters friend was there to support me all the way through it I got called in at 130 came out at 245 then called back in at 3 I won it I was so overwhelmed by it.they did ask dwp if they had a question to ask at the end of it but she didnt .I just want to say thank you to each and one of you for all the advice and support I been shown.12 month been fighting for this.but now it's over with so thank you and good luck to everyone else going through the same thing keep fighting I almost caved in but my daughter and husband and representative were so supportive and told me not to give in because that's what they want.much love to all of you.xxx
  • Alice_HoltAlice_Holt Member Posts: 46 Courageous
    Well done.

    Very pleased to hear you and your Citizens Advice rep were successful. 
  • MobileGamesMobileGames Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    @dillongirl. That is fantastic news. Good on you for going and getting through it. 
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @MobileGames
    Thank you.im just glad it's all over.its hard going when u have to fight for what you know you're entitled to.there was a lady waiting to go in and she was blind my heart just sank.do u think because someone from dwp was there it will be sorted a bit quicker.or will the time scales still be the same 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    Great news, i'm glad it went well and a decision went in your favour :)
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  • MobileGamesMobileGames Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    @dillongirl. It is hard,but needs to be done. We need to fight it. Do you mean the back pay after your tribunal win? From what I've heard on here,some have said up to 8 weeks to get it. I'm waiting to go to tribunal,been waiting 51 weeks so far. I've come this far,so I'm not giving now. It's very anxiety inducing and there's been times where I've felt like giving up,been in bed at times,not wanting to see anyone or do anything. Bladder playing up,acid reflux playing up,my bowels playing up several times,crying,shouting,shaking,stomach hurting,ocd going into overdrive. This is my chance to let the tribunal know how the descriptors that are relevant to my case,affect me in day to day life because of my conditions and how my conditions limit me from doing them repeatedly,reliably and safely. 
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Thank you just glad its done with now.im still in shock regarding the assessment with the lies on the report.but it's done and dusted now. @MobileGames I wish you all the best and keeping everything crossed for you. And yes just wanted to know the time scale regarding back pay etc.but because there was person there from dwp altho they didn't ask me anything.was wondering would it be a little bit quicker.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    There's really no timescales for backdated money but it can be anything from 2-8 weeks.
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Ok thank you I know its sound stupid but I'm still having anxiety over it.fine one minutes melt down the next.its just so overwhelming.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    please try to relax, it's all over now and you won your Tribunal. All you need to do is wait a little longer for your backdated money.

    May i ask what award you were given and for how long?
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    I got awarded high rate on both components.im not sure how  long for I can't remember what the judge said ow god I never thought of that.il have to contact the lady from cab.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    That's great news. You'll receive a letter from HMCTS with the award details so it will tell you on there how long it's for.
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 7,491 Scope community team
    Huge congratulations on the tribunal win @dillongirl
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  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @Adrian_Scope
    Thank you.went through all of that and now I got to self isolate not that I went out much anyway but now I feel like a prisoner in my own home.stay safe everyone and thank you again for all the support.this sight has made my confidence a bit better so thank you 
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Just had letter of tribunal they have rewarded it me for 2 years.so now that I have received this makes me feel much better knowing that I don't have to worry about it till 2022.and all being back paid from when I put the application in.so I take it be up to dwp now as and when payments will go in.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    Good news. Hopefully you won't be waiting too long for the money that you're owed but it can be 2-8 weeks, possibly longer with the current situation.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    Well be like a savings I suppose.im lucky really because my housing officer been really good because I'm behind on a lot of Bill's.eg council tax one of them but they allowed me to pay what I could afford.they said as long as I keep them up to date my daughter does all my Bill's  for me.and shopping.just glad it's over with.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    Hi hope everyone is doing ok.and keeping well.it be 2 weeks this friday since I went to tribunal. Still not received letter of dwp.im starting to really get  anxious again.i understand they got a time scale.but after all the tears and stress of fighting for this.almost 12 months.it saddens me that we fight for it and still got to wait for money to go in.my daughter said she will give them a call on friday.seems I got the letter of tribunal within 3 days of my appeal and someone from dwp was there.so thought it might of been a quicker process.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Community champion Posts: 20,099 Disability Gamechanger
    Unfortunately, all you can do is wait. Under normal circumstances is can take between 2-8 weeks to receive backdated money. With the Covid19 pandemic these are not normal circumstances and further delays are very likely.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • dillongirldillongirl Member Posts: 34 Listener
    @poppy123456
    After posting my last comment I had a call of dwp just ringing to make sure my bank still the same.so will receive a letter within the next couple of day.🤗thank you all again for the support 
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