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WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
Hi all, 
          I hope that everyone is keeping well in these uncertain times. I wondered if it would please be ok if I were to start a conversation around football. I am a massive football fan and one thing that I enjoy doing during my free time, obviously prior to lockdown, is going to different football stadiums and watching games.  I enjoy watching football from all of the leagues and the atmosphere created. There are many things about football that I personally disagree with, such as how much they are paid, however the strategic element of the game really interests me. I am just wondering what other people thought of football. Please do share your thoughts. Thank you. 

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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    I love football and am a massive Gooner. Although I have to admit that it's increasingly tough to be a fan these days with next to nothing (besides old La Liga, Serie A and MLS games) shown outside of the sports packages. With three kids, that's not an expense I can easily justify.

    But as much as I love English footie, there's something about international games that captures my imagination. Forget all the fuss about not being able to complete the season, I'm devastated that Euro 2020's been postponed. There's only so many tournaments in a lifetime after all!
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • AilsAils Community champion Posts: 2,214 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm afraid I'm not a football fan myself, but I have been known to enjoy the odd World Cup match.  My hubby would love this thread though as he lives and breathes the beautiful game!  :smiley:
    Winner of the Scope New Volunteer Award 2019.   :)
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    I believe that after this is all said and done there's going to be a lot of reflection in terms of football fans and the importance of the fan and I think that we will see great emphasis on streaming services becoming involved in football and showing football. I also see transfer values being lower but I am a massive Arsenal fan but love all sport and pretty much all football 
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I sleep, breathe, and eat football!!! Also, boxing.
    A football thread would be fantastic.
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                     Thank you for your thoughts, I know that getting to watch games on TV, particularly perm games, is expensive and agree many families quite rightly prioritise other things. As @wheelchairWonderland said after all of this has passed maybe there will be a greater emphasis on the fans and all that we bring to the game and this may include making it easier for fans to watch from home. That is another reason for me that the FA cup is the best domestic competition as not only does it give teams in the lower leagues the chance to play some of the bigger teams but some games are broadcast on the BBC. Another Arsenal fan, cool, what do you make of Mikel Arteta? I know, I too am quite sad about the Euro's, who would have been your tip to win it this year? Thank you
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Ails,  
                   Thank you for your thoughts. Please my I ask what is the best World Cup game that you have watched? Also, you say your hubby is a big fan, please may I ask if there is a particular team he supports? Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @wheelchairWonderland
                                                  I'm pleased you have joined the conversation and thank you for your thoughts. I agree that when this is over there will be a lot of reflection on what fans bring to the beautiful game and how it may be made easier for viewing at home. Also, let's hope transfer fees are reconsidered as some of them, in my opinion, are extremely expensive. Please may I ask what other sports do you enjoy watching? Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Richard_Scope
                                      How are you? Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it nice to know there is someone else who sleeps, eats and breathes football :) Please may I ask, who do you support? Also, who is your favourite boxer? Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Please answer this if you would like too;
    Who is your favourite ever player to play for England? 

    Difficult question as there are many but for me it would have to be the legendary … 
    Bobby Moore 
    Obviously slightly bias being a West Ham fan but he was, in my opinion, a quality player and great leader. 
    Thank you
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    edited May 5
    WestHam06 said:
    Hi @Richard_Scope
                                      How are you? Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it nice to know there is someone else who sleeps, eats and breathes football :) Please may I ask, who do you support? Also, who is your favourite boxer? Thank you. 
    Hi @WestHam06, I'm a life long Liverpool supporter. My favourite boxer would have to be Lennox Lewis. I was lucky enough to meet him and watch him fight Evander Holyfield in New York and Las Vegas. 

    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    WestHam06 said:
    Please answer this if you would like too;
    Who is your favourite ever player to play for England? 

    Difficult question as there are many but for me it would have to be the legendary … 
    Bobby Moore 
    Obviously slightly bias being a West Ham fan but he was, in my opinion, a quality player and great leader. 
    Thank you
    My favourite player for England would have to be Paul Gascoigne. Troubled genius. 
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Richard_Scope
                                    Liverpool fan- great choice. I love the way Liverpool play under Jurgen Klopp, what a manager! How are you feeling about the current situation with the league, what would you prefer to see happen? Have you been to Anfield? Wow you met Lennox Lewis, that must of been quite something to watch him fight in New York and Las Vegas? Also, good choice in Gascoigne :)  
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I was a season ticket holder a few years ago. During the Souness years (just my luck :D ) It became too expensive and as Anfield is an old ground wheelchair spaces are a premium, so they all go to season ticket holders now.
    I think they should try to find a way to finish the season. That would be fair for everybody.

    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    edited May 5
    WestHam06 said:
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                     Thank you for your thoughts, I know that getting to watch games on TV, particularly perm games, is expensive and agree many families quite rightly prioritise other things. As @wheelchairWonderland said after all of this has passed maybe there will be a greater emphasis on the fans and all that we bring to the game and this may include making it easier for fans to watch from home. That is another reason for me that the FA cup is the best domestic competition as not only does it give teams in the lower leagues the chance to play some of the bigger teams but some games are broadcast on the BBC. Another Arsenal fan, cool, what do you make of Mikel Arteta? I know, I too am quite sad about the Euro's, who would have been your tip to win it this year? Thank you
    I definitely agree about the FA Cup. Not to harp on with cliches, but there was always something simultaneously accessible but prestigious about it.

    I'm not entirely sure about Arteta to be honest. But I think there's so much dead wood in the squad that it's not fair to judge any manager that comes in until there's been a proper rebuild. What about you?

    I think France would have been there or thereabouts, but their form in qualifying was a bit patchy. Other than that, Germany? Are Italy ever anyone's pick? Who would've been your dark horse?
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I loved the FA Cup when I was younger. Just Something about it. I would have tipped Belgium for the Euros, my dark horse would be England. Yes, I should know better at my age!
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    WestHam06 said:
    Hi @wheelchairWonderland
                                                  I'm pleased you have joined the conversation and thank you for your thoughts. I agree that when this is over there will be a lot of reflection on what fans bring to the beautiful game and how it may be made easier for viewing at home. Also, let's hope transfer fees are reconsidered as some of them, in my opinion, are extremely expensive. Please may I ask what other sports do you enjoy watching? Thank you. 
    Hi guys this has explored in terms of the chat sorry for not responding as much I do wonder if one of the cups will be scrapped to ease fixture congestion and improve the players wellbeing and overall health and the quality of football will increase as they are not flogging a dead horse. Again I apologise I can't reply to everything 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    hi I’ve found the chat about football !!! My nickname should tell you what team I support! 
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    It has to be Ipswich Town!
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    Hey Tractor girl hope you are okay nice to meet you haha I thought you was a Norwich fan 😂 I would happily talk football with you 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    yes yes the wonderful ipswich town bobby robson is my hero 🙂🙂
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    He is a legend I have read his autobiography how long have you been a supporter for I am a Arsenal fan 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Norwich ???? That’s a swear word lol for me they are the budgies lol
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Since 1978 I was 10 I too have read bobbys 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Autobiography 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    I remember bobby as England manager .... when they nearly got to the final and gazza was in tears and bobby consoled him ...... bobby was a great manager and a true gent ! 
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    Haha the budgies  that's funny and spurs is to me and aw nice a long term supporter 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    This will make you laugh I had given to me a delia smith cook book ...... when she became budgies owner I chucked it out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    That's amazing haha 😂
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Well she was at a game and called ipswich and fans “ scum” which didn’t go down well think she’d had a tipple or two !! 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    To take over Norwich she must have bin drunk lolololol🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    You do it if it's your club 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    How long have u been supporting the gunners ? 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Hi to all on here i would love to chat about football the beautiful game ! I’m a tractors fan 
  • AilsAils Community champion Posts: 2,214 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @WestHam06, thank you for your response.  I hope you are well.  Re the World Cup, I enjoy a lot of the matches with France, Germany, Spain competing as they seem really good teams from what I can see with my limited knowledge of football!  However, the matches that I have always followed have been the Scotland v England matches even although often it has been very painful to watch us Scots being defeated, lol!  My hubby is a big Celtic fan so I'm a bit more genned up now about football since meeting him!  :smiley:

    This is a really good thread which has got a lot of people contributing so well done!  :smile:
    Winner of the Scope New Volunteer Award 2019.   :)
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    How long have u been supporting the gunners ? 
    Since I was 10 so 2005-06 season first game Arsenal Watford hope you are okay today 
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    Ails said:
    Hi @WestHam06, thank you for your response.  I hope you are well.  Re the World Cup, I enjoy a lot of the matches with France, Germany, Spain competing as they seem really good teams from what I can see with my limited knowledge of football!  However, the matches that I have always followed have been the Scotland v England matches even although often it has been very painful to watch us Scots being defeated, lol!  My hubby is a big Celtic fan so I'm a bit more genned up now about football since meeting him!  :smiley:

    This is a really good thread which has got a lot of people contributing so well done!  :smile:
    Thank you for Kieren Tierney who went from Celtic to Arsenal 
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    Guys and girls what are your best football memories I would say Arsenal related being there to see Arsenal beat Barcelona 2-1 

    None club related memory being in Spain in 2010 when they won the world cup  was a madness 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    Hi to all on here i would love to chat about football the beautiful game ! I’m a tractors fan 
    Welcome to the thread @Tractorgirlali. While I'm a Gunner, Ipswich has always had a place in my heart as we beat you 5-1 at Portman Road in the first match I ever went to see! :lol:
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    What a great match as your first one I hope the person who took you told you it won't be like this every week  Arsenal have a young talent under 18 called Flores who we signed from Ipswich last summer 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    edited May 6
    What a great match as your first one I hope the person who took you told you it won't be like this every week  Arsenal have a young talent under 18 called Flores who we signed from Ipswich last summer 
    Definitely. It was a cracking introduction that gave me completely unrealistic expectations and convinced me that Ray Parlour was one of the best players in the world. (That never changed!)

    Flores looks like a good talent. I try not to get too excited about the youth products coming up, but I can't help it with the current batch (Smith Rowe, Nketiah etc.)
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    hi hello wheelchair bound ...... I remember George Graham as ur manager lol hope u can see my profile pic 🤣🤣
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Thank u Adrian for that reminder lol 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Sorry wheelchair wonderland not bound !! 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Kevin Beattie was the best tractor boy !! Sad loss but we’ve all got r favourites at the team we support ...... in 78 I thought Paul mariner was the best thing in a pair of shorts lol he was a good player but there were some better but .... they all did their part 11 players make  a team don’t they 🙂
  • wheelchairWonderlandwheelchairWonderland Member Posts: 26 Connected
    Mate Ray is the romford pele do you have Facebook we could took youth football for ages You have Lopez Pituto the midfield wrong spelling Azeez Remy Mitchell never heard much about Aurthar Onokowo the goalkeeper 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    @Adrian_Scope said:
    I definitely agree about the FA Cup. Not to harp on with cliches, but there was always something simultaneously accessible but prestigious about it.
    I'm not entirely sure about Arteta to be honest. But I think there's so much dead wood in the squad that it's not fair to judge any manager that comes in until there's been a proper rebuild. What about you?
    I think France would have been there or thereabouts, but their form in qualifying was a bit patchy. Other than that, Germany? Are Italy ever anyone's pick? Who would've been your dark horse? 
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                   Completely agree with what you have said about the FA cup and Arsenal have quite good form in it too :) I think Arteta is a good choice but there would appear to be problems behind the scenes at Arsenal as you say, lots of dead wood and from what I can tell watching them there doesn't appear to be much leadership on the pitch, what are your thoughts on it? I too think France would have been in the semi's for sure and I think my dark horse would have been Belgium, I tipped them in the World Cup and was gutted when they got knocked out to France in the semi's. For me, they played some of the best football in the tournament but France did the basics well. Thank you 
                              
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Tractorgirlali
                                How are you? Thank you for joining, all ways good to know there is another avid football fan out there! Ipswich, great choice, if I remember correctly a West Ham kid by the name of Freddie Sears came to play for you and is still with you now, what do you make of him as a player? Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    @Ails said:
    Hi @WestHam06, thank you for your response.  I hope you are well.  Re the World Cup, I enjoy a lot of the matches with France, Germany, Spain competing as they seem really good teams from what I can see with my limited knowledge of football!  However, the matches that I have always followed have been the Scotland v England matches even although often it has been very painful to watch us Scots being defeated, lol!  My hubby is a big Celtic fan so I'm a bit more genned up now about football since meeting him!  smiley 
    This is a really good thread which has got a lot of people contributing so well done!  smile
    Hi @Ails
                    How are you? I am good thank you, thanks for asking. Firstly, thank you for your kind words, I can't take credit for setting this thread up, it was @wheelchairWonderland idea, they just asked me for some help getting a conversation going.
     Really like your choice in International teams, all three that you mention play good football just in different ways. Scotland have got some good players in the ranks, Andy Robertson who @Richard_Scope will know well as he is Liverpool's left back and a quality defender. Also, there's Scott McTominay who plays in midfield for Man United so the future looks promising :) Also, Celtic, for me, are the best club in Scotland, I know Rangers are well liked up in Scotland as well but there is just something about Celtic, though I only catch the odd game on Sky. Thank you
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Oh yes Freddie sears is a good player ...:if he scores he’s a hero lol 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Our former manager Paul hurst destroyed my beloved club 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @wheelchairWonderland
                                                 Great question, my best footballing memory as a West Ham fan was our last game at the Boleyn when we beat Man United 3-2, quality game with lots of memories as we bid farewell to home. Winston Reid got the winner, brilliant night! Another good footballing memory was Boxing day 2018, I went to Maidenhead vs Aldershot and the score was 4-3. Great atmosphere, great game! Thank you. 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    WestHam06 said:
    Completely agree with what you have said about the FA cup and Arsenal have quite good form in it too :) I think Arteta is a good choice but there would appear to be problems behind the scenes at Arsenal as you say, lots of dead wood and from what I can tell watching them there doesn't appear to be much leadership on the pitch, what are your thoughts on it? I too think France would have been in the semi's for sure and I think my dark horse would have been Belgium, I tipped them in the World Cup and was gutted when they got knocked out to France in the semi's. For me, they played some of the best football in the tournament but France did the basics well. Thank you 
    Definitely agree about the leadership issue. There hasn't been any leadership (or aggression) in the middle of the park since Vieira left. It's been frankly embarrassing at times watching us capitulate the way we have. I know our disciplinary record wasn't great in the Wenger invincible years but you could never fault the dedication.
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    Mate Ray is the romford pele
    That goal of his against Chelsea in the FA Cup is still one of my fondest memories.
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • AilsAils Community champion Posts: 2,214 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you @WestHam06.  I will pass on your nice complements about Celtic to my hubby - he will be delighted! Yes, Celtic are a very good team and well-followed in Scotland.  :smiley:
    Winner of the Scope New Volunteer Award 2019.   :)
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Hi ails nice to c another female football fan I am too a big football fan 🙂
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Adrian_Scope,   
                                   Completely agree, Vieira was world class, so dedicated and solid in midfield. I don't think that many footballers play like they used too, with dedication and passion. In my opinion, nowadays it's all about money and player power.  I remember as a youngster watching Vieira and Keane getting a little to involved and though I completely disagree with some of their actions, both showed a passion and willingness to do the best for their respective clubs. As a West Ham fan, Mark Noble is an absolute legend, he is not the best footballer in the world but their is a passion and determination to do his best for the Irons and he is extremely loyal. It does help that he is a West Ham fan himself.  Thank you.
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Ails
                   No problem, please may I ask who is yours's and your husband's favourite player for Celtic? I like Scott Brown, Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Tractorgirlali
                                Completely agree, so good to meet other female football fans. I went to the Ladies FA Cup Final last year, fortunately for me it was West Ham ladies, and they played Man City ladies. Though we lost, it was good to see so many fans, both ladies and gentlemen, at the game. Thank you. 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    I love to chat about football ty and I love ipswich town like all clubs they r steed in history ... my fav history point being Blanche Cobbold was the first female owner/director in football clubs 🙂.patrick and John Cobbold didn’t like football but did a lot for itfc lol
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Steeped in history lol
  • AilsAils Community champion Posts: 2,214 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Tractorgirlali and thanks for your nice words.  Nice to meet you too and welcome to the Community.  I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of football, but I do like the odd game.  It's my husband who is mad about it!  Since meeting him I haven't been able to escape football really!  Yes, it's nice to see us ladies enjoying football too.  Who is your favourite team?  Do you like to watch the women's football?  I like to watch that sometimes too.

    Hi @WestHam06 and it's nice to speak to you again.  I don't have a favourite player although I did really like Hendrik Laarson when he played for Celtic and my claim to fame is that I used to receive treatment from the ex Celtic physiotherapist as he has his own private practice.  I think that my husband likes Scott Brown too as he mentions him a lot.   :smile:
    Winner of the Scope New Volunteer Award 2019.   :)
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Hi ails I support ipswich town I have since 78 my dad bought me up with the love of it and he went to our local non league team every home game he taught me loyalty ! Cos he stuck with his non league club all the time ....God rest his soul 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Hi westham06 I have watched woman’s football but I mostly watch men’s and I do love it lol I watch over and over r f a cup win in 78 bobby robson is my hero 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    I’ve heard today football could be back on June 1st that ll be really good 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    WestHam06 said:
    I remember as a youngster watching Vieira and Keane getting a little to involved and though I completely disagree with some of their actions, both showed a passion and willingness to do the best for their respective clubs. As a West Ham fan, Mark Noble is an absolute legend, he is not the best footballer in the world but their is a passion and determination to do his best for the Irons and he is extremely loyal. It does help that he is a West Ham fan himself.  Thank you.
    Obviously Vieira and Keane were very good footballers in their own right, but what made them popular was the sort of dedication that Noble has in spades. Everybody wants a Pogba in their team, but it's the Mark Nobles who turn up in every game.
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    edited May 12
    As a neutral, I loved the whole Keane Viera thing! Proper midfielders with a genuine dislike of each other. 
    I wouldn't have Pogba even if he was gift-wrapped.
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi Both, 
                 Hope you are both well. Completely agree about the Viera and Keane rivalry, classic to watch but they were both such quality players. I'd take Mark Noble every time over Paul Pogba :) You can't beat grit and determination.  
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    Pogba was a bad example, especially as I wouldn't have him either! :lol: I was going to say Messi, but he's a bit anomalous as he turns up in every game that's not in an Argentina shirt.
    Senior Community Partner
    Scope
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                    To be fair, I think I would take Mark Noble over most of the so called 'real talents', though I do acknowledge Messi is pure class. Here's a question for everyone:
    'Who do you think is the better footballer, Messi or Ronaldo?'

    For me it would have to be Messi, I just think he is the more natural. Thank you. 

  • scotleagscotleag Member Posts: 68 Connected
    I have been watching Belarusian football on my mobile phone via a betting website and I am not really a gambler and don0t bet on the matches in question. I am counting down the hours to the Bundesliga restarting tomorrow and while right now I'd just be glad to get out of the house am hoping I'll be able to attend a game before the end of this year. I've been to several sub-100 crowd matches this season and would hope these kind of non-league matches might get the go-ahead seeing as they're open air and it's easy to practice social distancing.
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I'm looking forward to the Bundesliga tomorrow too. Any football to be quite honest.
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • scotleagscotleag Member Posts: 68 Connected
    If BT Sport have any sense they'll make some matches free to view. There's a starving public out there and they might gain subscribers. I'm pretty annoyed with Premier Sports. I paid up front for Spanish & Italian football and there's no way on their website to contact them to see if they're extending the contract if these games resume or partially refunding if they don't. I did the same with NOW TV for British football and they've emailed twice saying the contract is being extended until games played.
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    You're right, it would be a good thing for the broadcasters to do. In fairness to SKY they suspended my payments for sports until the footy is all sorted. I have less than glowing comments about Premier Sports
    Scope
    Specialist Information Officer - Cerebral Palsy
  • scotleagscotleag Member Posts: 68 Connected
    NOW are basically Sky and they've done the equivalent. I paid up front as it was a better deal but I'm happy with what they've done. Didn't need to get in touch with them. Premier are just ignoring their customers which is stupid as there's no way I'll be renewing if they don't sort something out.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 4,055 Disability Gamechanger
    I love football and am a massive Gooner. Although I have to admit that it's increasingly tough to be a fan these days with next to nothing (besides old La Liga, Serie A and MLS games) shown outside of the sports packages. With three kids, that's not an expense I can easily justify.

    But as much as I love English footie, there's something about international games that captures my imagination. Forget all the fuss about not being able to complete the season, I'm devastated that Euro 2020's been postponed. There's only so many tournaments in a lifetime after all!
    Two words. Wrexham AFC :)
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    WestHam06 said:
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                    To be fair, I think I would take Mark Noble over most of the so called 'real talents', though I do acknowledge Messi is pure class. Here's a question for everyone:
    'Who do you think is the better footballer, Messi or Ronaldo?'

    For me it would have to be Messi, I just think he is the more natural. Thank you. 

    That's a tough one. While they're different footballers, it's not like there's a lot in it. I guess I'll say Messi.
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  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    Cristiano, for me. Better in the air but it is incredibly close. Did anybody catch the Bundesliga at the weekend? It was strange with no fans. VAR still took an age! I turned it off about 30 minutes in.
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  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    I Iove football but because we r in league one now I resort to dvds and you tube to watch them ...all f b is good I was bought up with non league and that was good to watch ....not messi or Ronald standard but they played their hearts out lol 
  • scotleagscotleag Member Posts: 68 Connected
    WestHam06 said:
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                    To be fair, I think I would take Mark Noble over most of the so called 'real talents', though I do acknowledge Messi is pure class. Here's a question for everyone:
    'Who do you think is the better footballer, Messi or Ronaldo?'

    For me it would have to be Messi, I just think he is the more natural. Thank you. 

    Never mind Cristiano, Messi is the best player I've seen in my life - and I'm old enough to have seen Pelé, Best, Cruyff and Maradona. 
  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    All u football fans can I have ur opinions on VAR ty 
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I'm not a fan of VAR but then again I guess I'm considered old. :smile:
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  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    No I’m not either ( not that divvie one has it lol) ......just waiting patiently for the season to finish of this season my team are keen to finish it behind closed doors 
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    I'm very keen to finish the season!

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  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    me to this is going to sound bad but I support ipswich and I’m itching to c Norwich get relegated lolol🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    I'm very keen to finish the season!

    Probably fairer to cancel and strike it from the record.  ;)

    On a serious note, I think VAR has morphed from what people were originally talking about when they wanted video assistance. I remember being all for it, but in a way I'm starting to miss the little bits of controversy that VAR has all but washed away.

    Bundesliga was odd. It didn't feel quite real, as if I was watching a training ground game or playing those pre-match challenges on FIFA. It was the same with the Juventus v Inter match back at the start of March. The fans give the game gravitas and urgency. Without them it's just a bunch of very wealthy blokes in shorts and long socks chasing each other around.
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  • TractorgirlaliTractorgirlali Member Posts: 33 Connected
    Yes fans at a game is a definate it helps make an atmosphere ..... closed doors must b weird for footballers too .... like u say it’s like training 🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    For me VAR has completely taken the controversy and excitement out of football.  Don't get me wrong, in the past, there have been some clear and obvious catastrophic mistakes made by referees, Maradona handball World Cup 1986 springs to mind, but VAR takes decisions to the extreme. Being offside by a millimetre, does that really give a player an advantage? Also, I think the main reason I am not a fan is because of the inconsistencies of it, a decision will be given one way and then a very similar decision will be given the other way. When West Ham played at Sheffield United this season, we were denied a equaliser in the last minute due to VAR and yet in another Premier League game a similar incident occurred and the goal was given. Now we played poorly that night but were robbed in my opinion. Ultimately, it is still a human being making the decision, they are just having more time and different angles to view things and at the end of the day, as humans, we will all view things differently. For me football was better without VAR, worth a try but hasn't worked and the concept of it is a good idea, though I don't think it is going anyway anytime soon. Thank you. 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    Definitely agree with that @WestHam06. It's too imperfect to be worth losing the nuances of the game over. But it's in now and I don't reckon we'll be saying goodbye to it.

    What do we think should be done with the season?
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  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    It's a really difficult one. Obviously as an avid fan, I'd love to see the season finished but I think you have to be practical and realistic.  It is probably fairer to void the season and hopefully start afresh in August. I think if they pursue its going to be a difficult one, I heard today that Kante may not return to Chelsea this season due to his concerns about the virus. Now that is completely understandable but is it fair on either him or Chelsea, not that I'm overly bothered about Chelsea :) If Chelsea play without him, the question will be could they have faired better if they were playing with him in the team? I know that if the decision were mine I would end the season now, declare Liverpool winners, and give any teams with games in hand a point each, then leave that as the end standings, though I know there are many contradictions to doing this, that's why there not :)  It's fairer if all leagues void the season. In the great scheme of things, with all that is going on as Jurgen Klopp said 'Football is the most important of the least important things'. Thank you. 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    I reckon in the interests of fairness (and winding up the Scouse) the season should be voided. In truth, I'm not so bothered about who wins (it's pretty clear who's taking the Premier League after all) but instead about what poor buggers end up relegated by committee.
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  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    As long as we get that trophy, void away! :D
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  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    It probably is the fairest option, however it looks set to be returning. I heard about the schedule of how games may be played, but I don't want to get to optimistic as quite rightly the health and safety of all must be priority. I agree about how difficult this must be for teams in the lower leagues and those facing relegation. Hopefully we will know more soon. Thank you. 
  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    17th of June. Man City v Arsenal and Villa v Sheffield United. Bring. It. On.
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    Not the best return fixture we could have asked for really.  :s
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  • Richard_ScopeRichard_Scope Administrator Posts: 2,000 Scope community team
    edited May 28
    I think it'll be a close game. You're both used to playing in very quiet stadiums :D:D 

    Obviously, I'll lending my support to the Gunners!
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  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    That's 'cause we haven't had anything to get loud about in years.
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  • scotleagscotleag Member Posts: 68 Connected
    Not the best return fixture we could have asked for really.  :s
    These are the two outstanding postponed fixtures. Being played first to bring every club up to 29 games. That's the reason they've been chosen for the restart
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Administrator Posts: 6,420 Scope community team
    scotleag said:
    Not the best return fixture we could have asked for really.  :s
    These are the two outstanding postponed fixtures. Being played first to bring every club up to 29 games. That's the reason they've been chosen for the restart
    Yep! I would have accepted an automatic draw!
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  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi Everyone, 
                         Hope you are all well. Just wondering what people thought of sharing their predictions of scores of any matches which are of interest to you. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thank you. 
  • WestHam06WestHam06 Community champion, Scope Volunteer Posts: 294 Pioneering
    Hi @Adrian_Scope
                                        Definitely not an easy game to return to. I too think it will be a close game and I'll be cheering the Gunners on! Thank you.  
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