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ESA CB>IB>CB

niknak7278niknak7278 Member Posts: 12 Connected
Hello

Could really do with some input.

In 2011 my husband was in receipt of IB & DLA - MRC/HRM. I gave up my full time job to care for him and applied for CA & IS,

I think in 2013 the DWP transferred him to ESA.  From memory he was awarded CB but was placed in the wrong group.  Took 2 yrs for him to be sent for a medical and finally placed in the support group.

2018 he was transferred to PIP. 

Last May he was sent an ESA3 which he had to complete.  Only asked 3 questions, 2 questions about savings and the third about hours work between March 2012 and present day.  No question about IR benefits.

Beginning of July they reviewed claim and decided not entitled to IR because I was receiving IS, the day after ESA awarded him the disability income guarantee premium.

This February his claim came up for a review.  Just before the lockdown a welfare benefits specialist did a home visit and completed the forms.  The following month DWP wrote to GP.  Mid May DWP phoned to request a telephone assessment, said they wouldn’t cut benefit while waiting for decision, even if that meant waiting until face to face assessments started up again.

The telephone assessment happened, the assessor mentioned he was on the basic rate and they were hoping to put him onto enhanced rate?  No idea what she was referring to.  Three days later hubby received a letter from DWP telling him they were stopping his claim for IR and putting him back onto CB.  I sent letters to the adviser who spoke to DWP at length who had no idea where the letters came from, said he was entitled to IR and would look into the claim again.

True to their letter husband payment was reduced at the next payment date.  Another phone call to DWP who explained hubby was excluded from IR due to my IS - which was reduced in April to £6.10 a week.  Third phone call to IS said they’d reduced money as they weren’t told about the premium until April.

As per advice I’ve written to IS asking them to recalculate claim.

Adviser can’t get straight answer from DWP so he’s figuring it out himself.

Still waiting for outcome of ESA review.

I’ve 2 questions,

1:  what could/would happen to hubby’s ESA if I stopped claiming IS?

2:  Could I appeal decision to reduce my IS given that the error was due to ESA failing to pass info onto IS dept?

Any direction gratefully appreciated.

Thank you!


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  • niknak7278niknak7278 Member Posts: 12 Connected
    Thanks for the info, his benefit has been reduced by £17.10 a week and yes since April my IS has been reduced to £6.20.  IS state ESA never told them about that premium last year but that’s not true as I received  a letter from IS telling me it didn’t effect my entitlement but may do in future due to updating.

    Advisor estimates he should be receiving £180-£190 per week and it should have been a joint claim for ESA with husband claiming for me - doesn’t understand why I’m on IS.

    DWP made mistakes with his claim from the beginning.  That’s why I asked if I closed my IS claim would it force them to pay him the premiums they’ve suddenly “excluded” him from receiving ?

    Thanks again for input.



    Orangutan said:
    hello, i think you need to tell people the specific amount of monetary reduction, and where from ?; are you saying the ESA was reduced in addition to IS etc ?

    if he was incapacitated in 2011, i think it would mean he should have been on income related ESA + DLA 2013 (?), becoming "IR ESA (with "serve disability premium" (hence CA + IS eligability) + PIP" 2018 > to date; and hence the confusion about the "contributions based bit" (- it makes no sense how you can go from IR > CB when you haven't been "contributing" to anything (...but would make sense if he was on IR from the beginning), "assessors" shouldn't be talking about peoples income / your post is very confusing.

    baring in mind you are a "couple"; is your "household" going over the benefit cap by anychance ? (this would explain alot).



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