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WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
edited September 2 in Welcomes and introductions
As soon as tall buildings open up again I'm going to throw myself off one.

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  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    Hi my name is male45

    I see you say as soon as tall buildings open up you're going to throw yourself off one.
    Why is this, what has happened to make you feel so low to make you want to do this?
    Is life so bad that its making you feel this way?
    I'd like to offer a link to a means of support 24/7 . Please don't feel offended you can use it anytime.
    Website: www.samaritans.org 
    Tele: 116123
    Email: [email protected]
    Please make use of any of the links
    Also keep posting as you will find loads of support on this community.
    We all want to go through your crisis with you and help


    Best Wishes 
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    @AblistScumbagsMustGo
    There are lots of discussions on this community forum, feel free to look around amd take part in any and even start more yourself. 

    Sometimes talking to strangers is helpful than talking to a family member or someone we know.
    Do you find that too?

    I suffer from PTSD and started a thread about it.
    Also Picture Jokes just to release the stress of the day

    Best wishes 
    Best Wishes 
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    Hello there,

    We want to keep you safe, so please ring 999 and ask for an ambulance if ever these worrying thoughts become too much, also @Male45 has given you a brilliant contact link for the Samaritans.  If you prefer there is an option to text 85258 to a service called 'SHOUT' where a crisis volunteer will ring you back to offer help.

    How are you feeling now?  Do you have people at home to support you?

    In the mean-time, and I do appreciate how upset you are, please change your username using the little cog in the top right hand corner of the screen and clicking edit profile.  We are very anti-ableist here and its a safe space for you to talk.  
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  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    edited August 28
    No worries, if you drop us an email at [email protected] with what you want it changing to we will sort it for you :)
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  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    My life is **** and all attempts to make it less **** have backfired.
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    My life is ****.
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    I can't

    You said you can't.can you say what cant you do please
    @Cher_Scope has given great suggestions and I do appreciate it can be hard at the beginning to seek out help.
    By posting on this forum you have made a start. 😃 
    So please let us help you more, can you  say maybe usi g just a few lines what has happened to make ypu feel this way?
    Best wishes
    Best Wishes 
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    @AblistScumbagsMustGo
    Can i ask why the use of those words in your username
    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I can't get a job.
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    My life is **** and all attempts to make it less **** have backfired.

    Ok. What has happened
    Best Wishes 
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    I can't get a job.

    Ok thank you for saying.
    With so much going on with covid19 many are now out of work. Has this happened to you?
    How long have you been out of work? What type of qork suits you?

    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    Nothing's happened, that's the problem.
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    do you live alone or with someone
    Best Wishes 
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    I'm glad you are telling us a little more about your situation. How does it feel?
    Please do tell a little more
    Best Wishes 
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    edited August 28
    ah I see you're user name has now  changed and you're contributing to other threads well done @WorldsoldestNEET

    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    @WorldsoldestNEET

    How are you 

    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    Did you not sleep well @WorldsoldestNEET? What do you have planned for today?
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  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    Tired

    Hi again..sorry you feel tired..
    TIRED . CLASSIFIED  FRUSTRATING 

    Strong words.
    Care to explain more   maybe in more than one word....up to you  😃 
    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I feel like I've slipped though the cracks.
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    edited September 3
    Morning @WorldsoldestNEET

    I'm so sorry you are going through this difficult time.  What's making you feel like you've slipped through the cracks?  Have you got friends and family supporting you? 

    I know it doesn't feel like it now but it will get better.  We are here for you whenever you need someone to talk to.  
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  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I want to do something.
  • Chloe_ScopeChloe_Scope Administrator Posts: 10,026 Scope community team
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET, I don't believe we have met, so hello!

    Can I ask what you mean by this? Are you currently safe?
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  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    I want to do something.

    So you want to do something.  Work wise? Are you bored at home
    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    That'd be nice. But my disability isn't visable, so no woke points for anyone who'd hire me.
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    edited September 4
    @WorldsoldestNEET  My disability isn't visible either but employers have a responsibility to be inclusive and provide reasonable adjustments.  You aren't alone, I promise.

    What kind of work would you be interested in doing?  Have you worked on your CV and started having a look online for opportunities?
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  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    Thought that program I was on might be able to help me get a specific job. Probs should have asked. Oh well.
  • chiariedschiarieds Community champion Posts: 3,451 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET - May I ask the name of the programme you were on? :)
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    Something involving wellbeing, I think. I dunno.
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Administrator Posts: 433 Pioneering
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET :) 

    Sorry to hear the programme didn't help. 

    Just thought I'd check in to see how you are doing at the moment? 
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  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I'm doing fine for a suicidal prsn.
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Administrator Posts: 433 Pioneering

    Hello @WorldsoldestNEET


    I have just been in touch with you by email from our community inbox.

    m concerned by your mention of suicide, and want to support you.


    You can call Samaritans any time on 116 123 to be in touch with a crisis volunteer. Also, SHOUT have a similar service that provides mental health support over text. If you text SHOUT to 85258, a crisis volunteer will be in touch.


    MIND also have guidance on how to manage suicidal thoughts, and you can find psychological services that are available to you on the NHS website.


    If you feel that you may be an immediate danger to yourself, please call 999 or go to your local hospital right away.


    We're all here to support you, and you deserve to get the help you need.


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  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    edited September 6
    I'm doing fine for a suicidal prsn.

    Hi 
    I'd like you to pm me so we can have a chat.
    Do you feel you could do that
    Best wishes
    Best Wishes 
  • steve51steve51 Community champion Posts: 7,125 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET

    I’m very very sorry to hear about your current situation/problems.

    Yes if you can take on board @Ross_Scope info above & if there’s anything that I can help/support you with please please let me know!!!!!!

    @steve51
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    edited September 6
    Removed by moderator. Herbal tea and meditation can only do so much.
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I don't know how. This is the least asthetic forum I've even seen.
  • Ross_ScopeRoss_Scope Administrator Posts: 433 Pioneering
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET

    Have you received support from any of the above services before or been to your GP to discuss your mental health? 

    To private message on the community, you need to navigate to your profile picture (located in the top right of your screen on a laptop) and find the four icons underneath it. The second from the left is for your inbox. If it's not available then you won't have unlocked it yet.

    I removed part of your above comment as it contained strong language. 
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  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    I'd like to offer a link to a means of support 24/7 . Please don't feel offended you can use it anytime.
    Website: www.samaritans.org Tele: 116123
    Email: [email protected]

    You will be in control of what you tell them.and if you want to end the call and recall you can do that. They will listen and offer support.

    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    Not getting involved with Samaritans again.
  • steve51steve51 Community champion Posts: 7,125 Disability Gamechanger
    edited September 6
    Hi @WorldsoldestNEET

    Is there anything that I can doooooo???

    @steve51

      


  • male45male45 Member Posts: 303 Pioneering
    Not getting involved with Samaritans again.

    ?
    Best Wishes 
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I'm not saying changing advisors would solve the problem. But I don't see anyone else coming up with any solutions.
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    @WorldsoldestNEET How are you today?  I hope you've had a nice morning, have you been up to much?
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  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 645 Pioneering
    Well, I've learned a new acronym from your screen name... 

    Do you mind saying which age bracket you're in?  Are you currently getting help from a work coach on UC?  What sort of job are you after?


    Staff on here have a duty of care to keep you 'safe' and some members will be concerned about any mention of suicide.  But I agree, Samaritans etc can't offer much other than distractions or the reasons they want to live...which isn't the same for all of us and not of much help to those of us with constant suicidal ideations.  It's really designed for people with sudden, brief intent that will pass...  It sounds more like you need a lifestyle change to me...whether that's a job or a hobby or whatever you'd like...
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I'm 29 - but may as well be 16 for all I've achieved, I don't have a work coach and I want the kind of job that pays money and I'm treated like a human being at. And yes I would like a hobby, but I'm dirt poor so WAYGD?
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Administrator Posts: 887 Pioneering
    @WorldsoldestNEET You are still young from where I'm sitting  :)

    You mentioned earlier you were interested in a career involving wellbeing, I think that would be a great way to use your lived experiences.  Have you thought about returning to college/university to train in anything particular or is that something you wouldn't fancy?


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  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,258 Pioneering
    @WorldsoldestNEET, I can appreciate the issues somewhat and as for working my son is 25 and has always worked until Covid, now he cannot get back to work as the work he was doing is still banned (I think). He chose a different profession at the wrong time. He, btw, is completely healthy, so it isn't just us.

    I also understand why Samaritans isn't always a good idea. The problem is that everyone is completely anonymous to them as they are not allowed to keep records or notes. Therefore, every time you contact them, you have to start from the beginning and that can be depressing in itself. Not only do they not keep records they cannot help in any way, all you can do is talk and that isn't always helpful. You could try the Crisis line as they do keep records and have access to our records and call others to help as well. Usually the number is different in different areas but often an 0330 number.

    At 29 you are still young enough to have options especially if your problems aren't visible. It seems better not to tell them unless you have to when applying for jobs as some don't want the hassle and assume it will be worse than you say, even if you are completely honest. Unfortunately most are not, hence the assumption. I once went on a free dating site and was honest about my disability but using bulletin boards there were 4 women who had not declared so who admitted in an argument about disabled dating. All 4 then made new profiles to hide it again. Complete honesty is in short supply, which is why I come here rather than go elsewhere.

    Patience is very necessary in a poor job market and even the government understand this. After all they are offering help to those who might be made homeless by lacking a job rather than them turn to Social Housing and Benefits. Just try to realize that it isn't necessarily you, it could be just that there aren't enough jobs especially as some work is still banned.

    I'm too old and too ill to work, I've just had to accept it.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    edited September 8
    I'd just get bullied by teachers agian, so **** school. I wanted to put videogames on shelves for £5 and hour, but even that was asking to much from this stupid country.
  • Francis_theythemFrancis_theythem Member Posts: 64 Courageous
    I'm sorry to hear you were bullied by teachers. If school is too difficult for you, there are alternative ways of education. I recognise your genderqueer flag, I'm the same. If this was the cause of you being bullied then you could look for somewhere that has a good standard of equality. There's an award called the equalities award that recognises equality, so you can actually find institutions/programs that are really good against discrimination that way (which works for both gender and disability). So any place with that award you can be confident is very good for diversity, inclusion and equality in all forms.
    Or, because of covid, there's a lot of online stuff now so you could do it online without having to meet teachers in person.
    You could also email the institution/program saying "I was bullied by teachers before and I'm concerned and skeptical it'll happened again and this is stopping me from moving forward in my life. Can you assure me that this will not happen to me" and see what happens.

    Some teachers being bullies does not mean they all are. I appreciate that's how it seems to you that they all are but there are some really kind, good teachers out there and I want you to be able to find kind people in your life that can help you move forward.
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    edited September 9
    Can't afford education anyway so it's moot. But thanks for agknowlaging that teachers can be bullies too. If anything I got more greif from teachers than I did students from yr 7 onward. It's entirely possible it may've ****** me up for life.
  • OverlyAnxiousOverlyAnxious Member Posts: 645 Pioneering
    I'm 29 - but may as well be 16 for all I've achieved, I don't have a work coach and I want the kind of job that pays money and I'm treated like a human being at. And yes I would like a hobby, but I'm dirt poor so WAYGD?
    We were at school around the same time then...  I'd like to hope things have changed a bit since then!

    I'm not sure many first time/low paid jobs treat people as human beings unfortunately, but one that pays money should be doable.  If you don't have a work coach, are you signed off for health reasons on ESA or with LWRCA on UC?  Have you thought about self-employment - gardening or window cleaning for example?

    Obviously the income from a job would help with more expensive hobbies, but they don't all have to be expensive...you can do a bit of photography with a smartphone around your local area.  Obviously I don't know what you like or what your restrictions might be (other than money) to advise of anything specifically but I'm sure there must be something.
  • WorldsoldestNEETWorldsoldestNEET Member - under moderation Posts: 43 Listener
    I couldn't be self-employed. I don't have any specific skills or ideas that society is ready for.
  • leeCalleeCal Member Posts: 1,258 Pioneering
    Window cleaning is simple once you master the squeegee and that can be done in around twenty minutes on your own window pane. Window cleaning also doesn’t need to take up a whole day either, so plenty of time left to chill. If you start on bungalows you only need a pair of short steps, bucket etc. Best wishes.
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