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Does anyone else feel the same about the term 'disabled person'?

nicebootsniceboots Member Posts: 195 Pioneering
I'm sorry if this comes across as me having a chip on my shoulder but.... the term 'disabled person' drives me mad.... I think the term person with a disability should be used instead.
I'm a person first and foremost I just happen to have a condition that affects they way my brain and body communicates, which is seen as a disability... Even though I know no different... late night rant over!!! 

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  • JusticeJustice Member Posts: 206 Pioneering
    I don't have a disablity, but my Husband does. I would agree with you 100%
  • JusticeJustice Member Posts: 206 Pioneering
    @niceboots. While we are at it, I also don't like the term " Benefits" If someone has a disability later in life the chances are they have worked for many years, and paid into the system. If they are unfortunate to have been ill or have a disability all of their lives then the probability is their families will have contributed. For goodness sake, even the State Pension is classed as a benfit.

    What really takes the biscuit for me though is that when My Husband became ill, and he was self employed prior to that, we had an insurance against something like that happening, paid a lot of money each month for the insurance, so in essence we bought it. They have to gall to call that benefits too.

    That is my rant over too 
    t
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  • ArielAriel Member Posts: 16 Courageous
    "Disabled person" sits much more comfortably with me. Just as I am an "autistic person" not a "person with autism".
  • lailalaila Member Posts: 48 Connected
    I think that the word diability is wrongly chosen because we re poeple who manage to do many things. I think it should be replaced with: people with special abilities. Because we develop special abilities to fit in this life.
  • ZeezeeZeezee Member Posts: 80 Pioneering
    Hi my daughter has quad cp and although this effects her quite severely in a physical way, her intelligence is off the scale for her age. She is also fiercely stubborn if you tell her that she can't do something, she will do everything possible to prove you wrong. With this in mind I do not think that she is disabled, I prefer to say she is 'differently abled' because her abilities are just different from the 'norm'. I think that the term disabled instantly gives the impression that the person is somehow 'less than' everyone else. The first thing people say when told that a person is 'disabled' is "what is wrong with them".  Well there is nothing wrong with my daughter, her legs don't work properly, but hey, watch her swim better than other three year olds, she can't sit up unaided, but how many three year olds can read words like 'uniform, sausage, started, victory and hundreds of other words'. She can't do lots of things physically that other three year olds can do, BUT her favourite saying is " I can find a way". Therefore I don't think that she is dis-abled because she can do so many things so much better than her peers and her strength of character is a constant inspiration to me so I prefer to say that she is differently abled.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Labels change over the years.  This is going off the subject but related.  On census forms 100 plus years old there was no occupational category of 'retired'. Where an older person was no longer working the occupation box was left blank.

    Back then many people had no choice but to work till they dropped as there were no State pensions until 1911. And then most died before reaching pension age.

    Many these days might not like the term 'benefits' but at least we've got them instead of the workhouse.

    Of course the government are doing their best to withdraw benefits. Are food banks the thin end of the wedge?
  • MarkmywordsMarkmywords Member Posts: 407 Pioneering
    "What's in a name? that which we call a rose
    By any other name would smell as sweet;"

    This has come up before. It's not the label that matters but what people do with it.

    Change the label and eventually people will use the new one as a pejorative. :/

    Besides, it's not a label that keeps me mostly housebound.
  • JusticeJustice Member Posts: 206 Pioneering
    @Zeezee. I love the sound of " Differently Abled" :smile:
  • alggomasalggomas Member Posts: 5 Listener
    I think this is up to the individual. I have no qualms about calling me disabled as I am. It is just a name for someone who cannot do some normal things because of physical impairment. My family friends and many other people do not call me disabled. Only my birth name.
    It may be HOW people say it.
    Also other words have been sanatised e.g, dustmen. What's wrong with that?
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Member Posts: 7,732 Disability Gamechanger
    It is definitely a personal thing, Scope uses the term disabled person because we use the social model of disability.  The social model of disability says that disability is caused by the way society is organised, rather than by a person’s impairment or difference. It looks at ways of removing barriers that restrict life choices for disabled people. When barriers are removed, disabled people can be independent and equal in society, with choice and control over their own lives.
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  • forgoodnesssakeforgoodnesssake Member Posts: 298 Pioneering
    edited June 2017
    It's an interesting one and I have heard many sides of the argument for and against particular phrases.  I am not disabled but my son has athetoid CP and so I know quite a lot of other disabled adults and children.  I know that there is a view that it should be "see the person" ie put the person bit in before the disability, so "person with a disability".  However, as has been pointed out to me and I can see in the "social model"...the person has an impairment which may or may not disable them depending on how society works to minimise the effects of that impairment.  So I do say that my son "is disabled"...because things outwith his control and his impairment are often what disable him; certainly in the built environment and with regard to other people's attitudes and behaviours (if they changed my son would be less disabled).
    However he also uses a communication aid, and there is more of a move to put person first in describing a person who uses a communication aid...so you get PWUAAC..it is being used more and more, rather than "communication aid user" or "AAC user"
  • basiclee08basiclee08 Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    after my accident I hated the being called Disabled, took me along time to come to terms with not being able to get up and go anywhere without planning and worrying about access, all that wasted energy and time, i suppose we who are not born with a disability go  thru this. took me  a long time to come to terms with who i am and my abilities now.  The term or word Disabled is not the problem its us,  societies  Issue. that in this day and age Sadly we are Far from Equality and full access as our counter parts The able bodied. Over the last seven years it as not Helped our Cause Being Named as scroungers and so on by our own Government. 
  • RolandRoland Member Posts: 34 Courageous
    I am not defined by my disability.  I am a person living with, not suffering from or dying from. I define my disability.  And I choose how to define it.
  • connormorrisconnormorris Member Posts: 1 Listener
    I personally hate that label- People often ask me what its like to "suffer from MS" and I don't answer them, I might have MS, but MS will never have me; it doesn't define me, it hasn't changed my personality, so why would i be a disabled person?
  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,097 Pioneering
    It doesn't really matter how we are referred to, there will always be people who use it as a derogatory term. The rules are set by the majority and those are healthy. Most of them have no idea what classes as a 'disabled person', nor are they particularly interested to find out. They will always overlook us in some fashion, maybe because they only understand what they see on TV or maybe because they are embarrassed about having to refer to us.

    When I have to use a wheelchair I get odd looks when they think I am not observing them as much as to say "Why didn't he get the cure, is he too stupid to understand it?". Then they may or may not talk to anyone healthy with me talking right over my head, assuming I will not understand. I often shame them by holding intelligent conversation (my IQ is above average) with them and others around me.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • DasiydoDasiydo Member Posts: 94 Courageous
    Well I am got Dyspraxia but college said learn difficult but I disagreed with at as can't go downstairs or hills but also where hear aid say half deaf in disability I keep no secret how feel disability I live with everyday even someday are hard then others
    V.shaw
  • AmzAmz Member Posts: 1 Listener
    I don't like the term 'disabled person' as I feel its making your condition or health problem define who you are. Like I'm not saying your illness or condition isn't important of course it is but don't let it define you. You are able to do things in your own way and in your own time. My brother has Cerebral Palsy and he is in a wheel chair because of it. I told him about me having Palindromic Rheumatism and Hypermobility which effects my mobility sometimes. He signed to me "Where is your wheel chair"?. I explained not all illnesses are visible and not everyone needs a wheel chair. He smiled and gave me a hug as this was the first time I told him properly about my health. Even on forms it asks 'Do you see yourself having a disability". This question is so hard for me to answer as I want to write No, but I guess I feel in denial as I refuse to Give up . Its been since 2014 I was diagnosed and when I did it was almost like grief...Like apart of me was lost..Any one else had this feeling?  Like something inside was missing. Also I was relied as I knew I didn't have pain for all theses years since little for no reason.
    Hope everyone is well.
    Please no hate comments, If you don't agree with what I have wrote this is fine because everyone has there own opinions .




  • DasiydoDasiydo Member Posts: 94 Courageous
    I have different promble with bus pass As with hear aid and Dyspraxia " You not disabled you not over 65 years old why got bus pass?"those who get blues badge for your car do have same problem?
    V.shaw
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Community champion Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    I am not disabled, I am still exploring the things that I can do

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • jonblakejonblake Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Having a son with CP, yet more able than me in so many ways, has certainly made me rethink my ideas on disability.
  • exdvrexdvr Member Posts: 305 Pioneering
    Dasiydo said:
    I have different promble with bus pass As with hear aid and Dyspraxia " You not disabled you not over 65 years old why got bus pass?"those who get blues badge for your car do have same problem?

    Hi for over 20 years I was bus driver and we were never allowed to ask why anyone had a disabled bus pass.  Now that I'm nearly 70 and have become "severely handicapped" I also get a bee in my bonnet about being classed as disabled which I think stigmatizes those who are still able to do things, only slower and with difficulty. I much prefer to be classed as handicapped.

    Best wishes.

    DLTBGYD

  • janejrjanejr Member Posts: 131 Pioneering
    I don't like having to say I'm disabled. It's a derogatory term. I've been physically challenged for nearly 6 years so find it hard to say I'm disabled as feel it doesn't fit who I am.
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  • DasiydoDasiydo Member Posts: 94 Courageous
    I find hard living with disabilities why because of extra cost with food I be told can't do volunteer as befriended with making space recovery mealth health because my half deaf make me mad. I do something feel down as I feel I lost the battle prove them wrong beside have disability is part use ok PIP assistant was nightmare but I don't give up. I have promble with my dyspraxia as learn support going Upper Morton farm on Monday because Snow is coming to Stafford Staffordshire I won't be able get home to my cats Sydnee and Annbel if bus service not running. I don't like how other people judge because got hide disability
    V.shaw
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello every body.  I like a lot of the comments and agree with nearly all of them.

    Would the term having a disability be more sensible than saying being disabled.  I have been called handicapped.

    Which I then point out to the person saying that to me.  Must be some thing you can not do I can so does that make you having a handicap.

    Can you swim no he replied so does that make you handicapped then.  The inability to do tasks efficiently is that having a handicap.

    Same with disability.  What exactly does that imply to a person who in my opinion has a disability. That refers to some one who has the again inability to do functions I could not do.  That is my view, I reading between the lines.

    So if I can not for example read or write does that make me disabled.  Yet the term is banded about for all sorts of illnesses and conditions.

    That could imply to every body in the living world could it not.

    What I constantly hate the word Super Human got that few weeks ago.

    I gave him a look where did the hell that come from.  Hang there's a phone box.  Honey where's my supersuit.

    I do wish labels would go away and just treat us all the same. 

    Am I dreaming again.

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  • RolandRoland Member Posts: 34 Courageous
    The whole disability vocabulary is fraught. I see that Scope uses the term ‘acquire’ a disability, as if I went online and saw just the disability I needed (right size, right colour, reasonable price, next day delivery). Elsewhere ‘declaring’ or ‘disclosing’ a disability is discussed as if it were a big secret or a lie. For ‘disabled’ I much prefer ‘differently abled’ 
  • feirfeir Member Posts: 388 Pioneering
    my disability has turned me into a disabled person and does define me quite a lot, yes i am a person but it's now a big part of who i am. so long as people treat me like i'm human i don't mind what label they want to use.

    but i do find handicapped unacceptable for some reason despite knowing it just means disadvantaged, it seems to have some kind of negative connotation to me.
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