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  • Rozann
    Rozann Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    I'm pleased for you that was a great result. I asked for my DLA medical reports and was told they'd no longer be available. I hope I win my appeal when I get one.
  • Matilda
    Matilda Community member Posts: 2,593 Disability Gamechanger
    It was strange that they told you that your medical reports were no longer available when mine were, dated 1998.  

    Am pleased that you have now received your DLA medical reports. You should send a copy of these to the tribunal service as they will form part of the bundle.
  • karenfielder
    karenfielder Community member Posts: 6 Listener
    I found the PIP appeal service appalling; the judge and two sidekicks accused me of "being perfectly capable" - I had both my hands and wrists in splints along with elbow crutches. I was retired off early from my medical secretary hospital job and had all the evidence of the occy health processes which led to my early retirement. I felt that I was penalised because I had a brain and used it. They did not focus on my obvious disabilities. I could not get my unfair refusal over turned. I went through the whole process again starting from the beginning and was finally awarded high level for both support and care. I have to say thought that one of the annoyances when trying to obtain written evidence from hospital consultants, their rules are that they do not provide medical evidence for PIP or ESA as it is a waste of their time and money!! Then the PIP people ask you for written evidence from your medical professionals. The NHS and PIP need to sit down together and decide who want what and who is liable for providing it.
  • Rozann
    Rozann Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    I agree with you that the NHS and PIP need to get together. I have appealed and am waiting for a date for my Tribunal. During this time I've made notes of changes to my every day ability to carry out certain tasks and how I feel. I was wondering when you received the date for your Tribunal was there a form to fill in and send to court or did you just send a letter and medical records? I'd like to start writing something in advance as it might stop some of my anxiety about the Tribunal.
  • Matilda
    Matilda Community member Posts: 2,593 Disability Gamechanger
    edited December 2017
    @Rozann

    Once you have received a tribunal date itself (which probably won't be until two weeks before), you don't have to confirm this as you should already informed the tribunal clerk of any dates you would not be available.  

    You may send in any further evidence, medical or otherwise, at any time up until seven days before the hearing.  You can submit more evidence on the day as long as it isn't more than a couple of pages of A4.

    The tribunal will only consider your conditions and disabilities as they were at the time of your assessment, not as they might have changed since.

    It's a good idea to take some notes, for your own use, to the hearing to refer to if necessary.
  • tiggs9
    tiggs9 Community member Posts: 23 Courageous
    I'm still waiting for my date to go to tribunal all this waiting is really stressing me out it still not fair the way they treat people sometimes I wonder if it will be worth fighting only to be told no I hate this I have had this three times now they give me it then take it away then give me it again and then take it away then yet again I get it back now they have stopped it again how that makes me so depressed I'm fed up with it all 
  • karenfielder
    karenfielder Community member Posts: 6 Listener
    Matilda's advice is 100% spot on, I was told that all information previously submitted does not need to be submitted again, but, as Matilda states, if you submit any further info it has to be how you were when you first applied and not how it may have deteriorated since.  The CAB were so helpful for me, they gave me a sheet of how the points are worked out by the DWP, which I think that you can get on line, it was so helpful.  I was also told that 70% of claimants fail if they try to represent themselves at appeal so it is a good idea to take someone who knows your disability and how it affects you on a day to day basis. Like I say, although it is a very stressfull and worrying time, if at first you don't suceed, draw a line under the battle and start again from scratch with a more informed mind.  Good luck!
  • karenfielder
    karenfielder Community member Posts: 6 Listener
    tiggs9 said:
    I was told recently by letter that they are still not changing there mind about my outcome even though my husband sent a copy of my care package so I have to just wait for the Tribunal but if it is anything like last time I wasn't entitled to anything and to me it seems as a total waste of time because I know the answer before I go I never get any help  its been this way all through my life so really I don't know why I bother I only end up more depressed then I go right down 


    Chin up Tiggs - you cannot let them win.  You are the best person to know your own health/disabilities so you need to keep fighting them!


  • Matilda
    Matilda Community member Posts: 2,593 Disability Gamechanger
    I went alone to my PIP appeal hearing and won.  Even if they take someone with them, the panel will expect the claimant to answer most of their questions themselves - unless the claimant has great difficulty communicating and needs someone to communicate for them.
  • feir
    feir Community member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    the phone number for making an PIP appeal has now changed and is free to call (0800 number). so that's good in a way. i've also been told i can appeal online, so won't have to travel anywhere.

    i got 0 points on my application, they found no evidence of anything, they even said i didn't look mentally ill and the support i have been referred to for my mental health is not real because it's online -i found this more offensive than anything else. they even said i am not under the care of any specialists so they did get everything wrong (i'm under the care of a spine specialist and have been for a few months now). thought they contacted your GP for evidence?
  • JCTaylor
    JCTaylor Community member Posts: 8 Listener


    If you have had a bad assessment and the assessor has lied bullied rushed you and now you been awarded less points or refused pip.
    complain in writing to company they work for.
    As these assessors guide the DWP as the decision maker has NO qualifications.
    things wont change if we dont report these issues.




    What's address please assessor who visited my partner bullied him lied twisted what he said. I was in room whilst she asked only certain questions.
  • Rozann
    Rozann Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    Where can I find the name of the company the assessor works for? He didn't tell the truth on a number of things. I'm not sure if it was the assessor or the lady from the DWP that the written assessment went to who said I can take more of my medication in a day than I can. I have asked my Dr. and he confirmed that the dosage I'd stated was correct. Because I have heart disease as well I can't take anti inflamatories and this was sneered at.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 215 Listener
    edited February 2018
    @DannyMoore i don't think many people get you but you already know that .peace be with you 
  • tiggs9
    tiggs9 Community member Posts: 23 Courageous
    Hi everyone I still haven't heard anything from my tribunal hearing haven't even been sent a day to go now I have just been diagnosed with breast cancer and I have a mastectomy on the 12th February so I have more to worry about it gets worse for me I am absolutely pig sick of it all what with my other illnesses surely I should be given my benefits back because this is causing my depression now to get worse what with all the anxiety I have had in my life now I have this on top fed up with life lots of love tiggs 9
  • feir
    feir Community member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    they've shut my appeal and i never got to send them anything or heard about the appeal. they just said they looked over my case again (don't know why they bothered) and have again awarded me 0 points. some of their new information contradicts what my consultant said so it looks like they've lied about me.
    and they said they still couldn't see any sign of depression, idiots, you can't see mental illnesses that's how come people commit suicide and everyone is surprised to find out they were depressed.
    i cba really but will phone them for another claim form tomorrow and try and get on top of a couple more appointments next week and catch up on sleep.
  • Matilda
    Matilda Community member Posts: 2,593 Disability Gamechanger
    edited February 2018
    Sorry to hear of your diagnosis, @tiggs9.  Hope the op goes well.  I had breast cancer over 20 years go, received treatment, and the cancer has never returned.

    You should write to the Tribunal Clerk and tell them of the estimated length of time you are unlikely to be available to attend a Hearing because the Tribunal only has to give you two weeks' notice.

    65% of people win their appeals, myself included.  There is various info on this site about what to expect at Appeal Hearings.  The Tribunal will only be able to consider your conditions and their effects up to the time of the DWP decision letter, not any subsequent diagnoses and their effects.

     :) 
  • tiggs9
    tiggs9 Community member Posts: 23 Courageous
    It's sickening how we are treated everyone who has lost there benefits should all band together and say this is not fair the way we have been treated one I'm not a liar I don't ask for this kind of treatment I only want what I am entitled to if my doctors and medical people say I am ill then you should respect there letters and there decisions as they are qualified to diagnose us not you 
  • CockneyRebel
    CockneyRebel Community member Posts: 5,209 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi feir

    Was this a mandatory recon or a tribunal appeal ?

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • feir
    feir Community member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    just had a look on the letter and it said mandatory notice.
    the woman i spoke to on the phone though said i had one month to do an appeal and needed to have all my information/evidence. don't even know what they'e done here?
  • CockneyRebel
    CockneyRebel Community member Posts: 5,209 Disability Gamechanger
    If they have carried out an MR without considering your new evidence then you can ask them to look at it again.
    The next stage is to apply to the tribunal.
    To begin this you need to submit form SSCS1 with your basic reasons for your appeal
    You will then receive an acceptance letter followed by a bundle of evidence used by the DWP in your claim.
    When you receive this you should check that all your evidence is included and use this bundle to prepare your own submission.

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste

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