FODMAP
newborn
Community member Posts: 832 Pioneering
On this thread, I see people mentioning eliminating certain things, eg preservatives, with good results.
This may be chance discovery by one individual. BUt others might like to try experimenting by leaving out or reducing the same thing. My first question is, is there some collated data base, probably nutritionist moderated, but with general public input ?
(My discovery of FODMAP was decades before the term fodmap existed, when first I noticed that, much as I love all fruit, I really can't manage plums, then as painful years went by, I realised my favourite, pears, were also not good, and my beloved cheese and apples had to follow suit and leave the shopping list, then wheat, with rye being even worse. I hated garlic anyway, but loved honey for years before realising my body thinks it is poison. Finally, I heard of Monash, of Fodmap, eventually that Kings is training Fodmap dieticians)
Years of problems might have been avoided merely by having a tip off about items to reduce or leave out. There are odd ones too, such as the overdose of chlorine in tap water may cause skin flare ups, and may best be avoided as a drink for sensitised folk. Or, in the opposite direction, it may be that cheese is a bad idea, but paradoxically the same person is fine with any other dairy products.
My second question is related to the professionals. Do all dieticians know about FODMAP? Also, whàt dietary needs are n.h.s. food providers FORCED to bother about? E.g. vegan or vegetarian may be forced to be respected, in case it is religion based.
But, what if it is 'only' either personal ethics, such as not being willing to eat cruel factory farmed and chemical drenched food, or if it is 'only"'a reasonable need, especially when seriously ill, to eat food willingly çhosen, or even if it 'only' is a simple thing such as disliking sugar?
(Tea and coffee are fodmap banned of course, the grudging alternative of cocoa is floor-sweepings standard, ànd is not provided at all except as 'chocolate ', pre-mixed with sickening amounts of sugar, presumably because patients can be trusted to add sugar, or not, to their own cup of tea or coffee, but need to be forcibly fed sugar to punish them for choosing cocoa??? Sugared orange drink or apple (!) may be available once a day. My guess is that prisoners would have the legal right to insist on better opportunities to obtain nourishment. My guess too is that not a single one of the nutritionists or providers of hospital 'food' would force it down.)
Or, what of the cancer patients who often avoid challenging their bodies with mass produced lowest quality catering food cheaper than dog-food, and prefer to eat organic? Is it the NHS policy that it is perfectly OK with the nhs to let the patient starve rather than offer alternatives, -EVEN IF the patient is willing and eager to pay?
This may be chance discovery by one individual. BUt others might like to try experimenting by leaving out or reducing the same thing. My first question is, is there some collated data base, probably nutritionist moderated, but with general public input ?
(My discovery of FODMAP was decades before the term fodmap existed, when first I noticed that, much as I love all fruit, I really can't manage plums, then as painful years went by, I realised my favourite, pears, were also not good, and my beloved cheese and apples had to follow suit and leave the shopping list, then wheat, with rye being even worse. I hated garlic anyway, but loved honey for years before realising my body thinks it is poison. Finally, I heard of Monash, of Fodmap, eventually that Kings is training Fodmap dieticians)
Years of problems might have been avoided merely by having a tip off about items to reduce or leave out. There are odd ones too, such as the overdose of chlorine in tap water may cause skin flare ups, and may best be avoided as a drink for sensitised folk. Or, in the opposite direction, it may be that cheese is a bad idea, but paradoxically the same person is fine with any other dairy products.
My second question is related to the professionals. Do all dieticians know about FODMAP? Also, whàt dietary needs are n.h.s. food providers FORCED to bother about? E.g. vegan or vegetarian may be forced to be respected, in case it is religion based.
But, what if it is 'only' either personal ethics, such as not being willing to eat cruel factory farmed and chemical drenched food, or if it is 'only"'a reasonable need, especially when seriously ill, to eat food willingly çhosen, or even if it 'only' is a simple thing such as disliking sugar?
(Tea and coffee are fodmap banned of course, the grudging alternative of cocoa is floor-sweepings standard, ànd is not provided at all except as 'chocolate ', pre-mixed with sickening amounts of sugar, presumably because patients can be trusted to add sugar, or not, to their own cup of tea or coffee, but need to be forcibly fed sugar to punish them for choosing cocoa??? Sugared orange drink or apple (!) may be available once a day. My guess is that prisoners would have the legal right to insist on better opportunities to obtain nourishment. My guess too is that not a single one of the nutritionists or providers of hospital 'food' would force it down.)
Or, what of the cancer patients who often avoid challenging their bodies with mass produced lowest quality catering food cheaper than dog-food, and prefer to eat organic? Is it the NHS policy that it is perfectly OK with the nhs to let the patient starve rather than offer alternatives, -EVEN IF the patient is willing and eager to pay?
Comments
-
I'm not sure this is a question for a nutritionist. Sorry I feel your frustrations but I'm afraid I can't help answer this.
-
So sorry Kristen. There must be goodness knows how many types of nutrition expert. In my total lay person ignorance, I think I assumed they are all generically called 'nutritionists'. Apologies.
-
Hi @newborn, hope you are well.
Have you been to the GP about this? They should be able to make a dietician referral if this is something you are concerned about. There is this website that you might find useful here https://www.ibsdiets.org/fodmap-diet/fodmap-food-list/Scope
Brightness
Categories
- All Categories
- 13.3K Start here and say hello!
- 7K Coffee lounge
- 101 Games lounge
- 482 Cost of living
- 4.6K Disability rights and campaigning
- 1.9K Research and opportunities
- 230 Community updates
- 9.6K Talk about your situation
- 2.1K Children, parents, and families
- 1.6K Work and employment
- 806 Education
- 1.7K Housing and independent living
- 1.4K Aids, adaptations, and equipment
- 666 Dating, sex, and relationships
- 374 Exercise and accessible facilities
- 845 Transport and travel
- 32K Talk about money
- 4.6K Benefits and financial support
- 5.2K Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- 17.2K PIP, DLA, and AA
- 5K Universal Credit (UC)
- 6.4K Talk about your impairment
- 1.8K Cerebral palsy
- 886 Chronic pain and pain management
- 183 Physical and neurological impairments
- 1.1K Autism and neurodiversity
- 1.3K Mental health and wellbeing
- 328 Sensory impairments
- 832 Rare, invisible, and undiagnosed conditions