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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,348 Disability Gamechanger
    You can ring DWP to request an extra 14 days to return the form. Yes, there's limited space, as there is on most forms so my advice would be to use extra A4 paper to write any extra information you need. Make sure you write your name and NI number on the top of everything you send.

    No one can tell you how to explain your difficulties because no one knows how your conditions affect you. Just explain it as best you can and add a couple of real life examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies. Dont forget to send evidence to support your claim. Good luck.
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    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    My sister has rang pio today and got the extension, she's only just informed me, she also asked for herself and my locak councillor to be authorized to speak on my behalf as im not gud talking to people on the ohone, he advised someone would have to come out to ensure they were suitable as authorised people but he could update their details  on the system and they would be able to discuss most of issues regarding my claim if they rang. My sister fmgave him the details and asked him yo confirm written authorisation isnt required and he confirned no. Is this correct popy? Or do u think we should send in written authorisation?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,348 Disability Gamechanger
    This sounds like someone becoming your appointee. If you're unable to manage your own affairs because you're mentally incapable or severely disabled.

    The person becoming your appointee will need to give their bank details for your money to be paid into their bank, deal with your benefits on your behalf, which means receiving all letters addressed to them, be responsible for filling out all forms and report changes of circumstances.

    If you're capable of doing those things yourself then no appointee is needed. https://www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits

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  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Thanls poppy, my sister already has my benefits paid into her bank and speaks to people on the phone once i have given authorisation so think just leave it at that for now. Im ok speaking inline like this just not good dealing with people on the phone, so she said just leave it as it is for now. Thanks again for your advice its been invaluable as always
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Hi poppy sorry but another query for you. My g.p has agreed to write a supporting letter but the pip form states a supporting letter from the g.p is not accepted it has to be a record and/or treatment plan. Can i ask the g.p to change from supporting letter to a written report and next course of treatment due to be put into progress, which is referral back to primary mental health team, medication review and sleep clinic referral? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,348 Disability Gamechanger
    The reason why a letter from your GP isn't the best evidence to send is because very often a GP will not know how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. They will only be able to give very basic information like future appointments, medication etc. Future appointment dates aren't classed as evidence because it doesn't tell them anything about your conditions. All it tells them is you're waiting for an appointment.

    It doesn't mean you can't send a letter from your GP because lots of people do but a GP will very likely charge you for this and paying for something will very little information in it seems pointless.
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  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    My g.p has agreed to put something in writing and he asked for written details regarding how my disability affects me.  Will this suffice as a report if he also confirms what treatnent he is going to refer me to as i have just been seen by the community mental team and he is waiting for the letter from them before completing his letter which my sister is going to ask him to change to a record/treatment plan on monday. Do you think this will be ok if he agrees as at the moment all i have as evidence is a letter from the cbt therapist confirming i attended 13 sessions but she had to stop therapy as my anxiety levels were to high and i am.waiting for the letter from the community mental health team confirming that i need referrering back to primary mental health care, a medication review and referral to a sleep clinic. Also a diary over 7 days compiled by my sister and a personal statement from her. Sorry to keep asking poppy but i am so stresses out and just need pointers for my g.p.
    Thanks again very much
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,348 Disability Gamechanger
    anthonyj1 said:
    My g.p has agreed to put something in writing and he asked for written details regarding how my disability affects me. 
    This could be classed as a patient lead letter of evidence. Which means you've told your GP how you're affected and they have just confirmed those details in a written letter.

    I can't tell you what evidence you should or shouldn't send that's your decision. The diary and statement could be useful.
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  • cristobal
    cristobal Community member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    @anthonyj1 I agree with Poppy. If you ask your doctor for a 'supporting letter' then it will inevitably include what you have just told him/her to write. I imagine that's why DWP don't consider them. My GP knew nothing about PIP when I asked her so would have been of little value anyway...

    You must do what you think best but my advice is to spend your money on something else...
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Ok thank you very much but my g.p has said he wont charge me. If does include how my disability affects me and treatment plan can this not be classed as evidence? 
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Also if i consult an independant psychiatrist and obtain a report from him can i use this as evidence? 
  • cristobal
    cristobal Community member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2019
    @anthonyj1 - if it's free I'd say it's good value!

    I think a lot depends on what he/she writes - if they actually say what you can and can't do, and it's their opinion not yours, then I would have thought that it would be useful...

    Assuming that someone reads it that is ...

    Good luck

    PS I don't know exactly what a treatment plan is but I'm guessing that it's how they propose to make you better, not how  you can/ can't carry out daily tasks (which is a different specialism)
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Thanks for your help much appreciated
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Would an independant psychiatrists report help? 
  • cristobal
    cristobal Community member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    edited August 2019
    @anthonyj1 - what I would do is ask yourself this...

    " Does this report/letter etc say anything about my functional ability? Or is it purely about diagnosis and treatment/"

    If it's about functional ability i.e. what you can/ can't do then I'd send it...

    The 'problem' is that most medical professionals - GP's, consultants etc - diagnose illness and treat it - they don't have a lot to do with functionality. If they think you need help with that then they'd refer you to a specialist ..

    I've never looked at my medical notes but I imagine they run into hundreds of pages and none of them would 'support' a PIP claim...
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Thanks for all your advice, this is a very helpful forum xx
  • worried33
    worried33 Community member Posts: 492 Pioneering
    In regards to returning the form, what the DWP told me was essentially I could return it late doesnt matter but if the deadline is missed then it prevents the payments been backdated to the phone call unless an acceptable reason is provided for been late, so the claim will still be accepted, but the start date of the claim is put at risk.
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    The pip confirmed over the phone an extension had been granted to the 20th sept, deadline date was the 8th seot but the form wasnt received until the 16th aug, giving  3 weeks to complete the form. The gentlemen at pip advised automatic extensions were being granted due to problems with post, my pip is still in payment at the moment. My sister will be rechecking wiith pip again this  week to ensure the deadline extension has defintely been granted to the 20th sept.
  • worried33
    worried33 Community member Posts: 492 Pioneering
    Yeah for me I have no idea if they extended my date.

    I had an extension due to waiting for cab appointment.
    But then I forgot to ask for another extension when waiting for evidence from GP, so when that was sent it was late, I did attach a note explaining the reason and asking for them to still accept it.
    When I rang is when I was told it will be accepted but the unknown would be my start date due to it been late.

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