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  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Hi poppy, regardung the completuon of the pip form, is it ok to just write in the boxes see additional information or do you have to write something in tbe boxes? 
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Pip form nearly done , letter from mp and gp asking for a papee based assessment. Will they contact to say if paper assessment will be completed or will they just send an appt out if they dont agree to paper based?
    Also any ideas of the waiting times in manchester?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,352 Disability Gamechanger
    Most people have face to face assessments, paper based ones are very rare so expect a face to face assessment. They will send an appointment in the post, if one is needed.

    There's no timescales, it depends on backlog in your area. Some wait weeks and others wait months.
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  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,411 Disability Gamechanger
    I sent my pip review form back on the 16th of August and today i received my award without going to an assessment. I sent in all the letters i got from my consultant along with my medication lists. I didn't bother to put my doctors name on the form just my specialist nurse's as she is the one that knows more as to how my illness affects me.
        My advise is don't send too much information, just what is relevant to your illness
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,352 Disability Gamechanger
    I sent my pip review form back on the 16th of August and today i received my award without going to an assessment. I sent in all the letters i got from my consultant along with my medication lists. I didn't bother to put my doctors name on the form just my specialist nurse's as she is the one that knows more as to how my illness affects me.
        My advise is don't send too much information, just what is relevant to your illness
    Are you sure that's a new decision because it seems rather quick. DWP wouldn't have received your form for at least 7 working days after you returned it. Once it's returned it's sent to the health assessment providers who decide if a paper based assessment can be done or not. A report needs to be written, even if no face face is needed and this alone can take weeks. Once the report is returned to DWP then a decisions made on your claim. 15 days just seems way too quick!

    The letter you received today, does it have a new end date on that? please check the letter, if it was a decision on your review then your award end date will have changed.

    I would definitely ring DWP first thing Monday morning and ask if a decision's been made on your review. It would be awful to receive an appointment for a face to face assessment in the future, if you think a decision's already been made.
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  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,411 Disability Gamechanger
    hi @poppy123456 i worded it wrong sorry, my review form was due back by the 16th, i actually posted it on the 6th... yes it is a new award payable until August 2023 i am as surprised as you that it didn't  take that long. Could you tell me if there will be a report i can ring for ? 
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Hi viking queen can i ask what area you live and do you know the assessment office is that assessed your claim? And was your award basex on your physical or mental health difficulties or both?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,352 Disability Gamechanger
    hi @poppy123456 i worded it wrong sorry, my review form was due back by the 16th, i actually posted it on the 6th... yes it is a new award payable until August 2023 i am as surprised as you that it didn't  take that long. Could you tell me if there will be a report i can ring for ? 
    That's very quick indeed. Yes, you can ring DWP for a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you.
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  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,411 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @anthonyj1, i live in the north west, not sure of the assessment office i just sent my form to the dwp at Wolverhampton.
        Mine is just for physical health. 1st time i applied i had to have a face to face as most people do and that was at Burnley in Lancashire and that only took about 5 weeks in total. Maybe we are just lucky in this area
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Hi viking queen, im from the north west too and  will be sending my form next week. My previous assessmentd have been in salford but sent to wolverhampton same as you. I have requested paper bases and hope they agrre, ss they are rare you have been really lucky to get your decision by paper and so quickly. Will keel thus post updated. Bet ur very pleased with the quick turnaround and award!!!!
  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,411 Disability Gamechanger
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
  • pollyanna1052
    pollyanna1052 Community member Posts: 2,032 Disability Gamechanger
    Phew! Read all these comments with interest. I had hoped I might get a paper based assessment, but no, I have my f2f at home on thursday.
    Hope you get paper based Anthony.

    All this is winding us all into knots of every description!
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Sorry you have had to have a f2f. Did you get a supporting letter from your mp and g.p. ? Most definitely a stress and mainly a yearly occurrence now. Not good at all just exacerbates all our illnessess profoundly.i'll keep u updated. Hope ur home assessment goes well
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    To give everyone an update, despite letter from MP, local Councillor, CAB and personal letter from my sister requesting  paper assessment AND the DWP recommending paper based assessment, my sistee received quite an abruot phone call from ATOS stating there were inconsistencies with my claim of respect of driving. My sister advised she answered the questions as asked on the form, can drive short distances in local vacinity but completely unable to complete  or plan unfamiliar journeys, that would cause much distress. However, he stated home visit required, we could have appealed but just want it out of the way, so any help/advice regarding pip mental health home assessments would be much appreciated. Hope yours went ok pollyanna 1052.
    Hope poppy is available as her advice is 2nd to none 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,352 Disability Gamechanger
    A home assessment is the same as an assessment in one of there assessment centres, except it's in your own home. Everything else will be the same. They will ask you questions about your conditions and how they affect you. You will also have to verify what was written on the form, so hopefully a copy was kept before you returned the form so you'll be able to have a read through before the day of the assessment.

    You will be watched from the minute they arrive to the minute they leave. You will have to speak for yourself during the assessment unless you have an appointee and then that person will be able to speak on your behalf. If you don't have an appointee then the person with you maybe able to prompt you but it will depend on the HCP on the day.

    Once you've had the assessment wait a week then ring DWP to request a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.

    Good luck and do let us know the outcome.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Thanks poppy once more, ive got the local coincillor and the cab coming to provide support as i dont trust them, so they defintely wont be able to spk on my behalf? Only prompt? Im really anxious and iwill be in a real state at this appt. Dont understand why this assessor haa gone against the mp, local councillor, cab and even dwo recommending paper based and stated inconstincies with the mobimity questions when my sister told the truth, local shop and short journeys can cope with ok but unable to plan and follow a route to an unfamiliar place, its made me feel like they're up to no good already ??? what do u think? Xx
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 53,352 Disability Gamechanger
    You're welcome. May i ask if your local councilor and local MP know you personally? If they don't then i'm not sure how a letter from them would have helped. Face to face assessments are nothing to do with DWP it the health assessment providers that deal with those.

    I'm surprised that a local CAB representative is attending the assessment with you because they don't have the funding to attend assessments with people. I'm afraid you will need to speak for yourself during the assessment because you're the only only who knows how your conditions affect you.

    Difficult to comment about the driving without knowing all your details.  Not sure what you mean by "they're up to no good" most people have face to face assessments, it's rare to have paper based assessment. For this reason then i'm not surprised you've been sent an appointment for a face to face assessment.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • anthonyj1
    anthonyj1 Community member Posts: 115 Courageous
    Yes the local councilor knows me well and wrote a very strong letter in support if a paper based assessment, the CAB  spoke to the DWP and they advised they recomended a paper based also,  so my sister thought they could make a decision b4 it went to atos, obviously all claims must get sent to atos/capita then? CAB have been really good but they did mess the form up badly firsr tine round but rectified it immediately.  With regard to the mobility my sister didnt understand what he meant by inconsistencies ehen he rang, as she clearly answered the questions truthfully and he just wasnt very explanatory and was abrupt and said that was why he had decided a home visit was required, so she finds it most confusing as she isnt bothered about the mobility award its just the daily living she wants to ensure remains correct and correct descriptors applied. And yes its very gud thar the CAB are attending also. 

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