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Just read that reply you've posted Matilda personally it won't affect us, I would be very surprised if it does? Short term awards are easier to review and or change. I think you would agree.March 16
MatildaYes, but if DWP do review long-term awards early, they can only change the award if they give evidence of a change of circumstances, not just because there has been a review.
Governments_A_JokeThey may do, but I have conclusive evidence that they will have to find a damm good reason to change mine, I can't speak for tribunal decisions.
MatildaI think we are saying more or less the same thing.
Governments_A_JokeAlso to add if you do give a change then yes it could or will change the outcome and the award could then be reduced, so unless you give any change we should be ok.
Governments_A_JokeMatilda, yes defo on the same lines, just a quick one, as before your tribunal you was on standered rates how long was the award before this On-Going one now. Was it the same. Would be interesting?
MatildaStandard for five years increased by Tribunal to enhanced with no term set.
Governments_A_JokeThat's a great reasult Matilda to go from five years to ongoing, keep in touch and thanks for letting me know.
Matilda I found something useful regarding our ongoing awards. I think we will be ok for a good while and won't have to panic. I've spoken to someone in the know. Also read this here.
Award period and reviews Fact: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/313749/response/773973/attach/html/4/PIP%20Award%20Policy.pdf.htmlMarch 15
Governments_A_JokeMatilda no worries I needed peace too, tell me what you've made of it from that link it's states quite clearly what we needed to know I think too.
MatildaYes, I think probably it will be the 10 years as stated on our award letters. Certainly, I don't think there will be automatic reviews every 3 years as Mike Hughes has claimed. He has been worrying people unnecessarily.
Governments_A_JokeYes my point Matilda and he has. Ive had it on good solid Authority to it and will be 10 years. That link I sent you was a freedom of information request as well. Did you understand what it meant, I know yours was a tribunal and mine via HP and DWP But should work the same way as it would seem pointless review, why give me mine like they did? I know yours has been granted through tribunal but amounts to the same.
Governments_A_JokeAlso to add.
I fit all of this.
340. The Case Manager (CM ) decides the period of an award based on all the
evidence including the advice from the Healthcare Professional (HP). The CM also
decides if a review or ‘planned intervention’ will apply and when the review date
should be set for. This should also be based on all the evidence including the claimant
questionnaire, (PIP2) other evidence provided and advice from the HP.
348 The review not required option is:
‘I consider there to be no requirement for future reviews of this claim as significant
change is unlikely’
370. Ongoing awards are appropriate where the claimant’s restrictions on daily living
and or mobility are unlikely to change significantly. If the HP considers no significant
change is likely and no requirement for future review it indicates an ongoing award
may be appropriate.
371. If the HP considers the claimant’s restrictions will continue but are likely to
deteriorate they would usually advise on an appropriate review period rather than no
372. If the CM considers all the evidence and advice and decides an ongoing award
applies, they don’t record an end date in PIPCS.
373. The planned intervention date will depend on the particular circumstances of the
case and the CM will decide the most appropriate date based on the evidence and the
advice from the HP. The date will be set from the consultation date. A date may be set
for less than 10 years but in any case the planned intervention date should be no
longer than 10 years following the consultation date
MatildaYes, I get the drift. I never doubted it would be 10 years until Mike Hughes began scaremongering. It is possible we could be contacted earlier but not all that likely.
Hiya Matilda I replied to one of your threads and this might interest you regarding PIP On-Going awards https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/129983#Comment_129983March 13
MatildaThank you, GAJ. I have replied to your comment on may thread.
Hi Matilda I hope you don’t mind me messaging you I have recently just sent in for appeal and I am absolutely terrified. I was currently recieving enhanced for both parts daily living and mobility and was reassessed in Dec had an awful home assessment the lady who came to assess me left a lot out of the report that I told her they have now awarded me standard for both 11 points daily living and 10 mobility I suffer with fibromyalgia , arthritis and anxiety cannot hi out out alone I work 16 hrs and through the report said this lady works 3 days I don’t I work 2 days (this is just an example of down right mid information she reported! my husband gets me up of a morning gets me dressed and takes me to work takes me 1 to 2 hrs of a morning for him to talk me into leaving the house and getting me to work, hospital etc; due to my extreme anxiety I requested they give me bk my enhanced my dr also has written a letter explaining I cannot leave the house alone due to severe anxiety attack’s if someone is not accompanying me, they havnt even take thi into consideration basically overriding what my gp has said I sent this in with my appeal application are you able to advise if there’s anything else I can do to support my appeal thanks in advance min xxMarch 10
Sorry to hear what you're going through but 69% of appeals succeed. Disability Rights UK site has a good guide to all aspects of PIP including appeals, as does the Disability Rights Handbook though the latter you have to buy, available from the Disability Rights site.
Try and get some f2f advice locally, CAB or similar.
The Tribunal Hearing will be inquisitorial but don't let this unsettle you. The panel are there to find out what you can and can't do. They'll challenge you but stick to what you've said you can and can't do.
If they ask for how long can you walk make sure you relate time to distance, never just give a time as this could suggest you can walk farther than you can. Say it takes you X seconds or minutes to walk up to 20m before you need to stop and rest for a few minutes.
My Tribunal based most of their questions on the diary I submitted with my claim form. I also got 11 and 10 after assessment, increased by Tribunal to 13 and 12.
Let me know if you need any more advice.
minHi Thankyou so much for getting back to me very much appreciated your case seems quite similiar to mine to be honest how do I go about completing a diary a weekly one? broken down day by day? Do you happen to know when my application goes to appeal will this go to a different case manager to look at or is this a higher dept in dwp? X
Have you just got your DWP decision? If so, you have to ask DWP for a mandatory reconsideration (MR). You have 28 days from date on decision letter to do this. MR will be dealt with by a different, more senior, case manager. If MR fails then you appeal to a Tribunal.
Diary has to be for 7 consecutive days before your PIP claim (within the previous 3 months). Disability Rights site (DR) has a draft diary in their PIP section that you can adapt. Make sure you list all the aids you use.