Advice needed: 16 year old with diagnosed ADHD. His behaviour is causing the family so much
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Busynan
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Has anyone advice for a 16 year old with diagnosed ADHD. His behaviour is causing the family so much concern?
Today, because his 14 year old brother was asked by their fully paralysed and semi blind mum to ask him to get up at around 1pm. the boy stormed in an absolute rage and pushed the 14 year olds bedroom door off its hinges, breaking the doorframe.
Since turning 16 last August, he has lost his DLA and also after face to face because he wanted to look after his own finances, he was not awarded PIP because he could find his way to college and cook a simple meal.
I am their grandmother who does all my daughter's phone calls, as she has short term memory loss after her major stroke, all the family's correspondence including arranging hospital appointments and am 3rd party on her bank accounts and her DWP Appointee. There also an adopted (family member) 7 year old girl with hypermobility and presently going through the Early Help Assessment with suspected Autism, who also has behavioural problems.
I am unable due to mine and my husbands ill health to look after the family's physucal needs.
This 16 year old gets no help from anyone and if offered any help refuses it.
My daughter has recently moved into a council house adapted for her but fears because of his behaviour that neughbours will complain and they could be kicked out.
How can we stop him ruining the family further?
Apparently he is too old for children's services but no one has even realised he needs a Social Worker - I have tried all avenues and am turning to Scope people for help in desperation with my daughter's family situation. They seriously need help.
Today, because his 14 year old brother was asked by their fully paralysed and semi blind mum to ask him to get up at around 1pm. the boy stormed in an absolute rage and pushed the 14 year olds bedroom door off its hinges, breaking the doorframe.
Since turning 16 last August, he has lost his DLA and also after face to face because he wanted to look after his own finances, he was not awarded PIP because he could find his way to college and cook a simple meal.
I am their grandmother who does all my daughter's phone calls, as she has short term memory loss after her major stroke, all the family's correspondence including arranging hospital appointments and am 3rd party on her bank accounts and her DWP Appointee. There also an adopted (family member) 7 year old girl with hypermobility and presently going through the Early Help Assessment with suspected Autism, who also has behavioural problems.
I am unable due to mine and my husbands ill health to look after the family's physucal needs.
This 16 year old gets no help from anyone and if offered any help refuses it.
My daughter has recently moved into a council house adapted for her but fears because of his behaviour that neughbours will complain and they could be kicked out.
How can we stop him ruining the family further?
Apparently he is too old for children's services but no one has even realised he needs a Social Worker - I have tried all avenues and am turning to Scope people for help in desperation with my daughter's family situation. They seriously need help.
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Im horrified. You need a lot of help. What a lovely lady you are. I do hope that you get the assistance you all need. (Including the 14 year old. You and he are doing so much. ) you are in the right place. People on this site are sure to have good ideas. All good luck and best wishes.
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Hello!
Give your local council a call. Ask politely for a social worker. Have you contacted your local crisis team or not? Get a needs assessment done as well. That will tell you much more about him. Try telling him it is either that or a poorly run care home for him. Does he go to a special needs school?
But since he is nearly a adult, ask him to decide. Explain the pros and cons of both options in a way he will understand too. Is he at college?
Use paper if need be. Make a list of good things about external assistance in green and bad things in red. Then do the same for care homes. Is he on benefits or not? Have you applied for PIP yet? It might be time to do so. Explain kindly why having a carer who fully understands is a good idea. Just be sure to use a reputable care company (I do not recommend CountyCare as I have had bad experiences with one particular member of their staff).
Also telephone NAS for further advice and information. Visit this link for more details. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/
Ask him what does he want? Let him take charge of his life but be on hand to offer reassurance. Say you do still love him but you cannot tolerate this anymore. Does he live with you?
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@Busynan. I am sorry you have slipped through the net but I think you should try as many avenues as possible. Adults with ADHD can present with a lot of issues in later life and if he did not get the support he needed as a child this can become a burden. It's probably worth stressing to whomever you speak to that the family have reached crisis point and can not cope because he can get help as an adult. Perhaps you could start with his GP initially. It's not about whether he will accept help but the fact your family are no longer willing to support him. It's probably worth separating in your mind the two concepts because there are two issues here that I see
a) you are no longer willing to support him
b) he no longer wants your intervention or help.
Because he has only just stopped beign a minor there is a tendency to still feel you have to protect him and 'help' but it sounds like as he progresses toward adulthood he might be rejecting help because he wants to manage his own condition in his own way. It can be hard to recognise that actually he may be capable of this when he is also creating issues at home. On the other hand, it's important to be clear about the fact that you guys have limits and there are rules for living at home. A 16 year old can choose to live where he wants so he has no obligation to continue living with any family member. This might mean that the accent of the relationship needs to change a little from parental control to supportive friendly guidance with rules.
All children - disabled or not wiil eventually rebel against parental and extended family control because this is a normal, healthy developmental stage. By laying down the rules but stressing to him that these are just your rules and at the same time showing confidence in his ability to be able to function well I think the balance can be easily addressed over time.A laugh a day keeps the psychiatrist at bay. -
Hi @Busynan
Welcome to the community, it sounds like you and your family have an awful lot going on!
We have the brilliant @SparkleSheffieldAutismAdvisors here on the community who may be able to offer you some information to help.
Scope
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Thanks for your suggestions. I have a telephone appt booked eith his Doctor next Tuesday ad I could not guarantee that he woukd turn up with me for a face to face. And have managed to get temporary morning care for the youngest - so hopefully things may improve soon.
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Thank you for updating us @Busynan and I really hope Tuesday goes well!
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Just managed today through many phone calls to get a Childrens care Duty person who will be seeing the family on Saturday morning! So persistance does pay off.
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Busynan said:Just managed today through many phone calls to get a Childrens care Duty person who will be seeing the family on Saturday morning! So persistance does pay off.
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Good news. But....
Is there some way for you to make a recording of the meeting?
However tactfully it is expressed, there is only a faint relationship between social care help needed and help provided
Sharp elbows and aggressive demands and sense of lofty entitlement may have an edge. The meek may not inherit the earth, but may be astonished to discover a social services assessment report has put words in their mouths. They have " firmly stated they are capable of managing very well, and that no assistance is required "!
They have a strange fetish with commodes and 'perching stools', -
Thanks for that. Will do.
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Don’t be afraid. Make a recording of the meeting or take notes during it. The most important thing is to be calm and treat him like a adult. Have 4/5 rules for him to follow. Set consequences and follow through on them as well. Good luck and keep us updated!
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I'm so glad you manage to get this sorted @Busynan! How did Saturday go?
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Both boys were on best behaviour! Think the yiunger one heard the appointment and told the older one. The Duty care worker phoned me later after her visit. Said she would repirt her findings to the Early Help worker - who will be back end of next week!
Lo ad behold Mum phones me an hour later - both boys were in foul moods and the 7 year old was copying them and refusing to even dothe tiniest bit of help for mum. -
I'm glad there has been some progress made from the meeting! Oh that's typical! I hope they have been okay today.Scope
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Just had a good idea, i think. Somehow by some way, could you and your daughter try to get a fly on the wall private cctv record.? Maybe a college or organisation could help. The more i think of it the more it seems potentially useful now and in future as a family album.
Edited one way, the boys are good. Which is true. They are. On best days, and with you pedalling flat out, their heads can stay above water.
But the whole family is under stress, through nobody's fault, and because they/you all need help which none of you are getting.
Therefore, strain is showing, people are pushed to a breaking point where they are risking their health and wellbeing, because they are unaided unsupported untrained juvenile/senior/disabled careworkers, for one another, as your family film would show when edited another way.
In future, you could pull clips to show how kind, thoughtful and helpful each had been. They may remember the bad moods and squalls, forgetting each is quite a treasure at times.
At other times, it would be useful and instructive to have footage of the squalls, to give important information to people who need to know, in order to tailor their help. -
That seems a good idea. I will make enquiries. Thank you.
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