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DWP & Assessment

AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
edited February 11 in Universal Credit
Hi, I'm Alex

I have been dealing with the DWP myself while out of work due to a large corrective operation. I was signed off for 6-8 months by the team looking after me and gave all evidence concerning the issue to the DWP. I was sent for an assessment and have since learned that the assessor had repeatedly lied and had made assumptions on the assessment.
This is a breach of the Nurses Code of Conduct, is a dismiss-able offence and can be considered fraud in some cases. 
This is a gross neglect of anybody in a situation like many are by the DWP and this needs to change.
I have been in contact with a reporter from a nation news channel who is collecting stories like yours and mine to make a detailed report on what is happening to people like you that need help.
These companies that run the assessments are a profit based company working for the DWP, this is what your tax money has been paying for.
If you would like to tell your sorry I can forward you on to this reporter so she can gather information so we can stop this from happening.
Please email me at :

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I am just someone, like you, who has witnessed first hand the state of the DWP and has decided to join the fight.
Please get in contact, the more stories we have the more chance we have to fight this.

Good luck
Alex

Replies

  • Antonia_ScopeAntonia_Scope Posts: 1,334Member, Administrator Scope community team
    Hi @AlexNY ;

    Thank you for sharing this with us. I am sorry to hear what you went through. Just to let you know we do not allow any email address to be posted in the community. Please read more from our community guidelines.

    If you have any questions, please let us know :)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed

    Please edit your comment and remove the email address. As a scope community champion here on the forums, your safety is important and it's against scope rules to put personal information on the forum.
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    This is not a personal account, this is made just for the reasons stated, to collect stories.
    Surely this would be ok considering what this is for?
    If I am not allowed to post the email address, where can I put a point of contact on here for this reason?

    Thanks 
    Alex
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    This is not a personal account, this is made just for the reasons stated, to collect stories.
    Surely this would be ok considering what this is for?
    If I am not allowed to post the email address, where can I put a point of contact on here for this reason?

    Thanks 
    Alex
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Hi,

    Scope do not allow contact details of any kind. If you want people to contact you then they can do this by messaging you on the forum.
  • clarkjohnsonclarkjohnson Posts: 193Member Chatterbox
    Spot on Alex and thank you for your support your a star 👍
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Posts: 7,348Administrator Scope community team
    Hi @AlexNY
    We don't allow any sharing of email addresses, telephone numbers etc on the community, this is a place for people to ask questions and chat with others in a similar situation. If people are interested they can comment on your post.

    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • steve51steve51 Posts: 5,333Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    @AlexNY

    Welcome it’s great to meet you this afternoon.

    Yes you will find many many members who have been in the same situation’s

    Please please let me know if there’s anything that I can help you with?????

    @steve51 ;
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    Hi Poppy,

    Some people may not want to post personal info on this forum and some may have legal implications as my case does.
    Do you provide a private message service so these people can be protected?

    Thanks
    Alex 
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Posts: 7,348Administrator Scope community team
    Private messaging is blocked for new members, once you reach level 2 (25 points) then you can access the private messaging facility.

    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    Hi Sam,

    Thank you. I will take them down now.
    How do I get to that many points?

    Thanks 

    Alex

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Gain points by commenting or posting on the threads.
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Hello 
    I am getting PIP standard rate and Mobility standard rate as i went to tribunal now in December 2018 they assessed me twice for ESA and today i received the derision and they gave me 0 points ever where and they stopped me paying from 7th Feb 2019 the nurse who assessed me she is a full of lies and i cant understand about my situation,I had a heart attack i am diabetic i have arthritis on my neck i have acidity problem i have bladder problem i have Prostate Cancer i have problem in my spin and my MRI show a decree of canal stenosis and i have a metal health issue so they have stopped my money what shall i do and how i can survive please help me 
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Assessor had lied 110% in my case

  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    Hi paul93:
    Assessor had lied 110% in my case

    Sorry for the late reply, I hope it reaches you in time.
    Firstly this need to be reported to the NMC. You should see if Citizens Advice can help with this. They would be best to write up a report stating where the nurse has lied, this can also be used as part of your appeal to the DWP and I have found that 90% of cases with this attached are winning. 
    As I said, report it first. You have a very serious case not only of Medical Negligence but of Fraud. This is happeming all the time and needs stopping but we need to gather X amount of cases with the NMC for them to really take action on these companies running the assessments and the DWP.

    I am having a chat with the NMC today and will post on the forum about it, so keep an eye out.

    If you are having issues with writing up the report I can help a little but you won't be the only case I am running at the moment so it may take me a little to get back to you.

    Good Luck

    Alex
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    So please Alex help me to write up the report i will be really grateful to you.Thanks many times.
    paul93
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    edited February 25
    More than happy to help Paul. If you want to go through the assessment yourself first and underline the points the assessor has lied, write a brief note at the bottom of the page about how the assessor did lie and [removed by moderator]  \I'll see what I can do but firstly I do need that from you if possible. If you are unable then either go to CAB or the Job Centre and get them to help you do this first part.
    They are both normally happy to help with this.

  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Dear AlexNY if you can send me your email then i can scan and write where the assessor lied then you will be able to understand everything.
    Thanks
    paul93
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Dear Alex i need to do first Mandatory reconsideration then i will make an appeal so can you guide me what shall i write in mandatory reconsideration please.Thanks paul93
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    Sam_Scope said:
    Hi @AlexNY
    We don't allow any sharing of email addresses, telephone numbers etc on the community, this is a place for people to ask questions and chat with others in a similar situation. If people are interested they can comment on your post.

    Hi,

    As a community champion here on scope, i'd like to remind you of our rules. As @Sam_Scope have previously advised we don't allow sharing of email addresses or any other personal information for the safety of our members.
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    OK Thanks poppy i didnt know that thanks for advising.Regards paul93
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
  • Antonia_ScopeAntonia_Scope Posts: 1,334Member, Administrator Scope community team
    Hi @AlexNY ;

    As @poppy123456 and @Sam_Scope have mentioned we don't allow sharing email addresses on the community. Please have a read through our guidelines.

    If you have any questions or concerns, please let us know or you can email us on: [email protected]

    Thank you
  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    Hi @AlexNY ;

    As @poppy123456 and @Sam_Scope have mentioned we don't allow sharing email addresses on the community. Please have a read through our guidelines.

    If you have any questions or concerns, please let us know or you can email us on: [email protected]

    Thank you
    Hi Antonia,

    I haven't put anything online, I was going to message Paul privately or get him to do the same.

    I will say a little something about this though,
    I have been helping people on twitter, Facebook, personally and via email. At no point have I been stopped by any of these. Considering this is meant to be a platform for injured/disabled people to communicate with one another on issues regarding  their disabilities, their experience with the DWP and the unlawful assessments. I thought that the people who run this would have an interest in people sharing these experiences and advising on issue that they have experience themselves.
    Fact being I have won my case through hard work but also knowing the system, now I am trying to help others while trying to get people the right information about how we could stop this. 
    I have yet to come across any of you informing people of the NMC, not once. Nurses are lying, you are seeing it and instead of actually personally helping, you refer to Government guidelines, the same government doing this to the people you are looking after. How about you get on board?
    I am here to help if I can, which I believe I can.
    I am about to send a report to the shadow sec for the DWP, I have been talking to a BBC reporter about these issues which we have managed to get quite a few stories for and I have been helping people with the NMC... Thats how far I'm willing to go to help. 
    If at any point this is breaking your guild lines (which I'm not after being told) then I suggest you look at some of the stories on here and reassess which side of this you stand on. As for doing things right, does Amber Rudd do things right, I imagine quite a few people on here have a few on that. 

  • AlexNYAlexNY Posts: 17Member Listener
    paul93 said:
    Dear Alex i need to do first Mandatory reconsideration then i will make an appeal so can you guide me what shall i write in mandatory reconsideration please.Thanks paul93
    Send me a private message Paul. 
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Posts: 7,348Administrator Scope community team
    Hi @AlexNY
    We welcome members sharing any information that could be of help to others in appealing DWP decisions or supporting them, we just have to be careful about sharing information on the community. We take our members safety very seriously and as you are aware there are some people in the world who will take advantage of shared email addresses and personal information.
    We have explained that once you reach a certain level of membership then you can get access to private messaging, this is all in place only to try and ensure safety for our members.

    Can you tell us more about the NMC and how reporting to them can be helpful? It would be great to find out more :)
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Dear AlexNY
    I went to meet my local MP today and she has written i very harsh letter to a minister about my case, and about in 10 days they did twice my assessment in Wolverhampton why was that and why the assessor wrote wrong in her assessment which is not acceptable and she mentioned the name of the assessor as well now tell me in my opinion they are in big trouble for there lies  

  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    MP mentioned that they should restore my ESA immediately she was very upset about my situation
     
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    paul93 said:
    MP mentioned that they should restore my ESA immediately she was very upset about my situation
     
    I'm glad to hear you've had a response from your local MP but this won't help your ESA claim. What you need to do is request the MR and you have 1 month from the date of the decision to request this. If this fails and most do then your next step is Tribunal. Unfortunately, these steps are your only option.

    Please get some face to face expert advice from an advice agency near you and they will help you with the MR and Tribunal. Good luck.

    Complaints about any lies told in the report should be sent to the assessment providers. DWP or a Tribunal won't be interested in any lies told in the report.
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    poppy i got you but i tell you what MP has done she wrote to a minister that she  didnt request for anything she ordered that my ESA should be restored in immediately action of my real illness which she saw all the paperwork from hospital not from GP 
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    poppy i am doing that as well my MR before 6th of march do i need to mention anything about MP or any thing specifically?Please guide me if you can Thanks

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    For the MR request you need to state which group you think you should be placed into and your reasons why. Sending in any evidence you have to support your claim. They very rarely contact anyone for this. Only 18% of MR decisions change so you'll most likely have to take it to Tribunal.

    Your MP won't be able to reinstate your ESA. If the MR decision remains the same and you haven't claimed universal credit then you'll be able to go back onto assessment rate of ESA but you'll need sick notes from your GP back dated to the date you were found fit for work.
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Yes i got sick note and i  have provided that and i applied for UC after a week when my ESA stopped and i am going to do MR on time and after that i will appeal
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Posts: 8,546Member, Community champion Brian Blessed
    paul93 said:
    Yes i got sick note and i  have provided that and i applied for UC after a week when my ESA stopped and i am going to do MR on time and after that i will appeal
    As you've now claimed UC then you won't ever be able to go back onto ESA. A sick note will be needed for the UC claim but it won't help the ESA MR or Tribunal.
  • paul93paul93 Posts: 49Member Whisperer
    Hello everybody need some advice
    I made a complaint to Nursing & Midwifery Council about my assessment am i allowed to share that on this forums
    Thanks
    paul93
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